some of our supporters need to grow a backbone

DarrenFreemansPerm · Oct 19, 2014

joeinbrighton said:
The Championship is a bit different this season though. At the top, no-one is running away with it and at the bottom, there's only Blackpool who really look out of their depth. Last season, it was clear from quite early on that Leicester and Burnley would take some catching and that QPR would have the resources to compete for promotion and at the other end, Yeovil and Barnsley were always likely to struggle. Nonetheless, Derby ended up finishing 3rd in the division and at this stage of the season, I would imagine they would've been no better off than halfway.

By the time you get to December, the table will be a more accurate barometer this season because out of the cluster of teams near the top of the table, it is more likely by then that 1 or 2 of them will have established themselves as the clear leaders and it will probably be the same at the other end. If Brighton were to win 4 or 5 matches on the spin between now and then, they will shoot up the table.

Only Blackpool look out of their depth? The same Blackpool that we couldn't beat at home? I'm not doom mongering but if we don't get ourselves out of this funk we will soon find ourselves in a very sticky situation, especially now Bolton and Fulham are on an upwards curve.

joeinbrighton · Oct 19, 2014

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
Only Blackpool look out of their depth? The same Blackpool that we couldn't beat at home? I'm not doom mongering but if we don't get ourselves out of this funk we will soon find ourselves in a very sticky situation, especially now Bolton and Fulham are on an upwards curve.

Yes, those were 2 bad points to drop to Blackpool, but Brighton by all accounts battered them and just couldn't score. One of those games. On the other side of the coin, Watford are currently top and Brighton drew against them at Vicarage Road and could have won the match. Just shows that there is no outstanding team in the division this season.

I didn't really see Bolton or Fulham being relegation candidates anyway, but I think that other teams that have made decent starts to the season will hit a slump and will be dragged into a relegation scrap.

Tony Towner's Fridge · Oct 19, 2014

I thought that this was a three year programme. Give the team a break please? October , eh whata bloody awful month for us...every season.

TNBA

TTF

TottonSeagull · Oct 19, 2014

glasfryn said:
yes,yes I know its bad, but why so many detracting threads on here
FFS grow a backbone.
stop moaning and get behind the management and players and stop behaving like a load of silly screaming girls, its not going to change anytime soon.

We Definately had our disagreements in the past but I 100% agree with this. Listening to BBC Sussex on the way home, several idiots phoning in saying they not going to go to games until results turn round................ Surely now is the time to show support? It's not great but some of the threads on here on just pure panic. I still think we will turn this around, we need a bigger striker to be more of a threat upfront. Those throwing the towel in already are extremely weak minded and need to realise a change of manager won't necessarily improve results. We have enjoyed some good times since 2010 but surely supporting the club in hard times is what the club need?

DarrenFreemansPerm · Oct 19, 2014

joeinbrighton said:
Yes, those were 2 bad points to drop to Blackpool, but Brighton by all accounts battered them and just couldn't score. One of those games. On the other side of the coin, Watford are currently top and Brighton drew against them at Vicarage Road and could have won the match. Just shows that there is no outstanding team in the division this season.

I didn't really see Bolton or Fulham being relegation candidates anyway, but I think that other teams that have made decent starts to the season will hit a slump and will be dragged into a relegation scrap.

Oh so you weren't even at the Blackpool game? Brilliant. Well I was and I can assure you we certainly did not batter them, and I'd also add it's probably not worth using the point at Watford as some kind of yard stick being that they were in between 3 managers.

LamieRobertson · Oct 19, 2014

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
Only Blackpool look out of their depth? The same Blackpool that we couldn't beat at home? I'm not doom mongering but if we don't get ourselves out of this funk we will soon find ourselves in a very sticky situation, especially now Bolton and Fulham are on an upwards curve.

Same Blackpool side that Middlesbro couldn't beat at home

DarrenFreemansPerm · Oct 19, 2014

TottonSeagull said:
We Definately had our disagreements in the past but I 100% agree with this. Listening to BBC Sussex on the way home, several idiots phoning in saying they not going to go to games until results turn round................ Surely now is the time to show support? It's not great but some of the threads on here on just pure panic. I still think we will turn this around, we need a bigger striker to be more of a threat upfront. Those throwing the towel in already are extremely weak minded and need to realise a change of manager won't necessarily improve results. We have enjoyed some good times since 2010 but surely supporting the club in hard times is what the club need?

Out of interest, what makes you think a 'bigger striker' will see anymore of the ball than a painfully isolated Baldock did yesterday?

DarrenFreemansPerm · Oct 19, 2014

LamieRobertson said:
Same Blackpool side that Middlesbro couldn't beat at home

Difference being Middlesborough are picking up points elsewhere, we are not. They can afford a slip up, we can't.

LamieRobertson · Oct 19, 2014

TottonSeagull said:
We Definately had our disagreements in the past but I 100% agree with this. Listening to BBC Sussex on the way home, several idiots phoning in saying they not going to go to games until results turn round................ Surely now is the time to show support? It's not great but some of the threads on here on just pure panic. I still think we will turn this around, we need a bigger striker to be more of a threat upfront. Those throwing the towel in already are extremely weak minded and need to realise a change of manager won't necessarily improve results. We have enjoyed some good times since 2010 but surely supporting the club in hard times is what the club need?

Did make me laugh that guy who has a ticket but isn't going next week..then went on to rant up the high cost of everything ...i don't think JC wanted to go down that particular route on the phone in

joeinbrighton · Oct 19, 2014

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
Oh so you weren't even at the Blackpool game? Brilliant. Well I was and I can assure you we certainly did not batter them, and I'd also add it's probably not worth using the point at Watford as some kind of yard stick being that they were in between 3 managers.

I wasn't there, but have spoken to several people who were who assure me they did. Also, I used Watford as a yardstick on account of the fact that, regardless of their managerial merry-go-round, they currently find themselves top of the table.

LamieRobertson · Oct 19, 2014

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
Difference being Middlesborough are picking up points elsewhere, we are not.

Quite..but seeing as you were using the Blackpool game it seemed relevant to point it out

One Love · Oct 19, 2014

joeinbrighton said:
If Brighton were to win 4 or 5 matches on the spin between now and then, they will shoot up the table.

Oh, well that's alright then. What are we worrying about

TottonSeagull · Oct 19, 2014

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
Out of interest, what makes you think a 'bigger striker' will see anymore of the ball than a painfully isolated Baldock did yesterday?

Personally, I think we need some one to hold up the ball with Baldock feeding off him. I would imagine that this will give Baldock more of a chance to shine. To be fair, Ulloa aside, we have struggled with strikers since our promotion year and most have been isolated!

DarrenFreemansPerm · Oct 19, 2014

joeinbrighton said:
I wasn't there, but have spoken to several people who were who assure me they did. Also, I used Watford as a yardstick on account of the fact that, regardless of their managerial merry-go-round, they currently find themselves top of the table.

Well now you've spoken to one who isn't blinkered. You're not confusing Blackpool for the Cardiff game where we played very well are you?

joeinbrighton · Oct 19, 2014

One Love said:
Oh, well that's alright then. What are we worrying about

Quite. Brighton won't be in any relegation trouble this season.

LamieRobertson · Oct 19, 2014

TottonSeagull said:
Personally, I think we need some one to hold up the ball with Baldock feeding off him. I would imagine that this will give Baldock more of a chance to shine. To be fair, Ulloa aside, we have struggled with strikers since our promotion year and most have been isolated!

As i understand it Baldock has always played better off of another striker

DarrenFreemansPerm · Oct 19, 2014

TottonSeagull said:
Personally, I think we need some one to hold up the ball with Baldock feeding off him. I would imagine that this will give Baldock more of a chance to shine. To be fair, Ulloa aside, we have struggled with strikers since our promotion year and most have been isolated!

Problem is when he puts another striker on Sami's formation means one of them is running the flanks and is absolutely nowhere near the other one.

Peteinblack · Oct 19, 2014

LamieRobertson said:
Good job we aren't in the bottom three then

Give it until next weekend

DarrenFreemansPerm · Oct 19, 2014

LamieRobertson said:
As i understand it Baldock has always played better off of another striker

He was interviewed after the Blackpool game and said this isn't the case. He's played in many formations and set ups of which this is one, but it's not his bread and butter, so to speak.

TottonSeagull · Oct 19, 2014

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
Problem is when he puts another striker on Sami's formation means one of them is running the flanks and is absolutely nowhere near the other one.

Agree we need more width as well, there is a lot that needs sorting out but I don't believe changing the manager at this stage is the way forward.

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