dingodan
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But nobody should get abuse though should they? Especially for what they believe politically.
They have bad ideas? You have better ones?
Good. Then win the argument.
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But nobody should get abuse though should they? Especially for what they believe politically.
They have bad ideas? You have better ones?
Good. Then win the argument.
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The irony of that statement is not lost on anyone who is reasonable.
SK1NT
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Funny how UKIP are stronger in the areas where there aren't any foreigners anyway...
Then they keep banging on about the dam EU. Can any UKIP supporter tell me a few laws you would change that the EU has imposed on us??
Then they keep banging on about the dam EU. Can any UKIP supporter tell me a few laws you would change that the EU has imposed on us??
The Spanish
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hahahaha blimey
I put my faith in the scientists who have spent years, studying, researching and experimenting the climate of this planet. If a substantial body of them, and not ones paid by oil companies to investigate climate change, believe that we are damaging the world then I'm inclined to agree with them. Even if, let's just say, that our contribution to climate change has been grossly overstated, are you happy at the thought we will have used up our natural resources in the relatively near future? Do you not care for what may be waiting for our children and grandchildren down the line? With regards to China and India, hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil your policy is it? Just because they don't give a toss gives us an excuse to follow suit does it? We should be leading by example, especially when we have the resources to do so.
Given that the majority of these immigrants are gainfully employed doing jobs that benefit the UK and it's people, or are paying us money to attend our Universities then I'm happy for immigration to continue. There is so much worry over EU migration and how much power Britain has over that, that people fail to consider 265,000 came from outside the EU, immigration we do have control over. Given that we can quote immigration figures, I think the government has a pretty accurate idea on how many people they can cater for.
This last bit just made me laugh.
He can f*ck off.
Whoever left reputation saying: "No, you can" I can only say good point, well made
brakespear
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New as in they have never run the country......No guarantees as they have never run the country, the only thing that can be guaranteed is that the parties that have run the country for the last few decades, have been corrupt.
brighton fella
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One does try to amuse the less cerebrally challenged
my very last and final post to you singleton college lad, BOLLOCKS !! and I make no apologies whatsoever for the lack of grammar.
cunning fergus
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I have got one for you.
Given Cameron's comments yesterday about regaining border control and the EU's response that open borders are a fundamental founding principle for EU membership. Can you ask the candidate, in light of the Ebola crisis, how many Europeans does he think need to die (or become infected) before democratically elected governments come under pressure from their electorate (ignore the whims of unelected technocrats) and arbitrarily introduce border controls or shut their borders?
I will open the bidding at 250.
brakespear
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Neither have the Greens.
There's a couple of points that I'd argue ( gently )
The figures tend to be massaged towards net immigration: ergo every emigrant can be replaced by an immigrant invisibly. Immigration per se is not a problem, of course, but we really have to look at the sheer scale.
I have to say that the biggest 'problem' that concerns me is the distortion that this causes on our homes market. Take a 'supply side' that is chronically under met and further eroded by BTL, and a 'demand side' that is pressured by Europe's (and beyond) economic refugees, and you come to see naturalised Britons having to wait until their late 30's (on average) until they can become home owners and hope to achieve security and start a family. I think this is infantalising a generation who are also drinking too much to dull their expectations.
We can't possibly house the all world's economic refugees, just to support a fanciful model of GDP and economic 'success'
Correct, but you were posting about UKIP.....so your point is?
Who was talking to you, shitius per cranium?
I agree there is a housing problem in this country, but this is just as much a problem of our own making. If we look at Horsham and the recent housing developments, they are all luxury homes, nowhere affordable for young Horshamites to move into as first time buyers. I think the point about drinking too much is a tad strong, heavy drinking is on the down according to this and several other articles: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/07/heavy-drinking-smoking-uk-national-statistics with the older generations remaining the heavier drinkers.
Its a chain.......The Bourgeois move in, and the proles move up to the spaces left.
The drinking thing wasn't a criticism, just an observation. I totally feel for 'Generation Rent'
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brakespear
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I think
.....the original post I quoted was stating that newness and possible incorruptibility were reasons for voting for UKIP without mentioning political convictions - which would surely be the prime concern.cunning fergus
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You have the opportunity to make a better life for you and you family by moving to Bulgaria.
Let us know how you get on.