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It will be British Isles whatever happens. Eire is in the British Isles, and it is independent. Eire is not, though, in Great Britain or the United Kingdom.
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English apathy to 2.8% of UK population deciding its future...
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It will be British Isles whatever happens. Eire is in the British Isles, and it is independent. Eire is not, though, in Great Britain or the United Kingdom.
Using that theory when we have the referendum on the EU the rest of the EU should get a say. Hardly democratic.
EDIT - beaten to it.
A mex eyecan
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Do you honestly believe we will get one?
forrest
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To give our fair isles their official name 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'
A mex eyecan
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So if the Scots do decide to leave with and with all of their anti English angst gone will that then make it the ' even more United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'?
We are not part of Europe as we live on an island technally.
forrest
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Some people would argue that we are as we're connected to mainland Europe via a tunnel.
Yes, I had a week's holiday there last year and proposed to my wife there. It was my fifth visit to Scotland. What of it?
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It is indeed madness, for a number of reasons.
1) A 50%+1 vote break up the Union. Even though half the Scots population said 'No'.
2) Thousands of Scots living in England cannot vote. Polls suggest a majority say 'No'.
3) The implications on the rest of the Union are huge, but no voice is heard, except that Scotland will now be treated like a returning prodigal son, who is then given his brother's share of the inheritance to ensure he doesn't leave again.
A poll as important, with all it's ramifications for everyone, should have been decided by a 2-1 majority as an affirmation of intent. How it was agreed to in the first place I'll never know.
1) A 50%+1 vote break up the Union. Even though half the Scots population said 'No'.
2) Thousands of Scots living in England cannot vote. Polls suggest a majority say 'No'.
3) The implications on the rest of the Union are huge, but no voice is heard, except that Scotland will now be treated like a returning prodigal son, who is then given his brother's share of the inheritance to ensure he doesn't leave again.
A poll as important, with all it's ramifications for everyone, should have been decided by a 2-1 majority as an affirmation of intent. How it was agreed to in the first place I'll never know.
drew
Drew
English Lesson.
Not 'their' leaving the uk but 'they're leaving the UK.
Their hands.
Not 'their' leaving the uk but 'they're leaving the UK.
Their hands.
My bad.
The Fifth Column
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Agree with this, Great Britain is a union of us all, why do just the Scots get to decide on dismantling it? Why don't the Welsh, English & N.Oirish get to have a say on the future of Great Britain. This was only ever really about Salmond trying to be the first president of Scotland.
'You won't get me I,m part of the union to the day I die, to the day I die.'
ThePompousPaladin
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clapham_gull
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And a small percentage of the population have a say in UK Parliament.
When I moved to where I live now it was the first opportunity I had to make any difference.
I grew up in a safe Tory seat and spent most my time in London in a safe Labour one.
No point getting out of bed. None at all.
Democracy doesn't really exist in this country and the Scots have stuck two fingers up to it.
Unelected Lords allowed to sit in the cabinet, a first past the post system able to produce weird unbalanced coalitions with the smallest party able to influence the make up the government.
Time for a change.
GingerBeerMan
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I can remember 40plus years ago talking politics in a Latin lesson at school where our Latin master pointed out (Mr Mohile - Worthing High School) that. We are a parliamentary democracy and we get to make a limited choice every 5 years. On 43 years of being of voting age, I have only once had the MP I really wanted. On several occasions I have had the one I voted for tactically.