Hang on... "none of the goals were his fault" followed by "with a couple of decent saves we could have quite a few more points"? If he could do nothing about them , they would need to have been world class, not merely "decent" surely?
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Dunk and Stockdale
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Hang on... "none of the goals were his fault" followed by "with a couple of decent saves we could have quite a few more points"? If he could do nothing about them , they would need to have been world class, not merely "decent" surely?
You are aware he has come out and apologised for the first goal today? He could've done better, saying there's no way he could've saved it is nonsense, have seen Kusz save far harder ones than that, unless we're just accepting Stockdale isn't up to Kusz's standard.
Icy Gull
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I didn't say he could do nothing about them I said they weren't his fault, it's not the same thing. Two examples, Henderson's save from Tex, he had no right to make that save and if it had gone in everyone would have said he had "no chance". Bogdan's save last week that he tipped onto the bar from CMS, same thing.
None of the goals we have conceded were clangers by Stockdale but most were saveable...IMO.
Albion Dan
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Stockdale must have the worst shots to save ratio of any Albion keeper in living memory!!
I think he's being hard on himself. I've seen the goal on SSN and it was right into the corner past a couple of defenders who left him unsighted. I could understand the criticism if he made a few bloopers that had cost us goals but as often seems to happen with our keepers, I think fans are being far too quick to get on his back.
Wait a minute Sergio.... At that extra time corner he signalled to SH, was it OK for him to go upfield, SH signalled yes and up he went. I reckon his presence in their area discombobulated Charlton and could have played a part in the goal.
PS Tangentially, would OG have waved him up, or GP for that matter, in the same circs?
Motogull
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Dunk was my MOM before the sponsors announcement was made. Plainly having a former world class centre half in charge is gonna improve him.
I love Teixeira - he reminds me of Lingard, only better. Both players when they receive the ball turn and run towards goal with the ball. Everyone is a winner with this loan. He is far to good for the second tier of English football.
I love Stockdale because he is a mentalist. When I said to mates it won't be long before he plays rush goalie, I didn't think I'd see it in August.
I love Teixeira - he reminds me of Lingard, only better. Both players when they receive the ball turn and run towards goal with the ball. Everyone is a winner with this loan. He is far to good for the second tier of English football.
I love Stockdale because he is a mentalist. When I said to mates it won't be long before he plays rush goalie, I didn't think I'd see it in August.
Sergio Garcia
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Discombobulated (love it), I agree his presence helped to confuse the Charlton defence, I'm glad he did it and I am pleased Sami waved him forward. At this point in the season it's great to see such passion to get a result - but he needs to demonstrate that he is a capable of making a quality save from a goal threatening effort. I still maintain that he could have got a touch for the first goal & he was beaten at his near post for the second - I'm still not convinced.
Think you have a point here - definitely draws some attention as he attacks the ball, meaning KLL has more space........
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QvwW7D202Lw
I kinda agree with your sentiment, to me his ability looks a little sub-Kooshack, just thought your 'only contribution' comment a tad harsh! Cheers!
Sergio Garcia
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Icy Gull
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My MOM by some margin today, he was immense. Can we keep him of he carries on like this?
Superb. MoM regardless of the goals - so composed on the ball and always in the right place defensively. The goals were just a bonus. I seriously think he could go a long, long way in the game.
BrianWade4
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Dunk was very good
Tex and Holla worth a mention too IMHO
Tex and Holla worth a mention too IMHO
warmleyseagull
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Lewis Dunk will be in premiership within a year. Would not be entirely surprised if GP gets Sunderland to bid silly money now.
Brian Clough once said that a good keeper is worth 20 points a season. Stockdale has not shown so far that he can make THE difference (ok possibly one by going up for a corner) but has not had much chance to do so. The test for him will be when we play better teams.
Brian Clough once said that a good keeper is worth 20 points a season. Stockdale has not shown so far that he can make THE difference (ok possibly one by going up for a corner) but has not had much chance to do so. The test for him will be when we play better teams.
Langley
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If there have not been any shots on goal, how can he make a save ?
Both goals were from close quarters which are always the most difficult to deal with, do not know how anyone can blame Stockdale for them.
If he were as bad as some of you make out, then you would have you old favourite Ankergren replacing him. I know who I prefer.
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1st goal was from outside the box wasn't it? It was definitely saveable.
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I'm amazed that there's people that who are trying to find faults all the time with our players. Players make mistakes sometimes - he's not had any howlers so far and his distribution is a lot better than TK's was. Give him time.