Danny Holla

One Teddy Maybank said:

Surprised you don't think he should have protected the CB's more, particularly on the first. Felt he was better against Bolton.

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nwgull said:

I thought he was outstanding and the main reason that we kept winning the ball back so quickly. Don't forget that we restricted them to 1 clear cut chance and one well struck half chance (the first goal) that the keeper probably should've done better with.

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One Teddy Maybank said:

You don't think that was because they sat back having scored then? Charlton were poor, BUT, they were very well organised and that was about all they had.

Guess we disagree about today, but agree about him being a class player.

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Diego Napier said:

! That's because we made them look poor.

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One Teddy Maybank said:

No, that's because we gifted them an early goal, which enabled them to then sit back. Very organised, and difficult to break down as became more and more apparent, and further evidenced by the lack of clear chances in the second half and the fact our goals were a result of set-pieces.

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Brighton Lines said:

It was good to see that his judgment has improved on the 50/50s with English referees. I think his courage is his strength. We will have to accept that he may get sent off once a season though.

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Diego Napier said:

"Gifted a goal" is far too harsh. Ventokele, who's currently in a rich vein of form, took advantage of an unlucky deflection, the ball could have ricocheted anywhere. You can't control everything in a 95 minute game of football.

I'm not sure what you mean by Charlton being very poor but very well organised, surely that's an oxymoron? Isn't being well organised very good and not very poor? In addition, their keeper made an excellent save to deny Teixeira an equaliser, their defence covered well to deny us opportunities, their midfield put in a major shift and their striker found the net twice away from home from the 2 chances he had. That reads like good not poor to me.

By the way, goals from set pieces are derived from attacking play not just gifted to us (and are given equal weight when determining the final score!). Our attacking play means that we will get more set piece opportunities (12 corners yesterday). Hyypia has spoken of the need for us to take advantage of set plays (in the way he did) and it's a positive that it appears Hyypia has encouraged Dunk to emulate his style of play.

For the large part of the game we were very composed and progressive; we restricted them to three chances, they were pressed back by us and if we had taken advantage of half of our opportunities we would have beaten them comfortably. They were a good side that we dominated but lacked the cutting edge to beat. Sometimes you just have to accept that you don't always get the rub of the green.

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Diego Napier said:

"Gifted a goal" is far too harsh. Ventokele, who's currently in a rich vein of form, took advantage of an unlucky deflection, the ball could have ricocheted anywhere. You can't control everything in a 95 minute game of football.

I'm not sure what you mean by Charlton being very poor but very well organised, surely that's an oxymoron? Isn't being well organised very good and not very poor? In addition, their keeper made an excellent save to deny Teixeira an equaliser, their defence covered well to deny us opportunities, their midfield put in a major shift and their striker found the net twice away from home from the 2 chances he had. That reads like good not poor to me.

By the way, goals from set pieces are derived from attacking play not just gifted to us (and are given equal weight when determining the final score!). Our attacking play means that we will get more set piece opportunities (12 corners yesterday). Hyypia has spoken of the need for us to take advantage of set plays (in the way he did) and it's a positive that it appears Hyypia has encouraged Dunk to emulate his style of play.

For the large part of the game we were very composed and progressive; we restricted them to three chances, they were pressed back by us and if we had taken advantage of half of our opportunities we would have beaten them comfortably. They were a good side that we dominated but lacked the cutting edge to beat. Sometimes you just have to accept that you don't always get the rub of the green.

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