Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

Register Log in

General Election 2015



Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,577
The Fatherland
happypig said:
There's an awful lot of people that have had little or no pay rises in the last few years (Mrs H's wages have gone up by two quid a week in 4 years) and when they hear about we t the economy they think "well it hasn't got better for me". Couple this with constant stories of the people at the top getting big pay rises and people feel that "We're all in it together" is a bit disingenuous.
Click to expand...

Disingenuous, I'd use stronger word(s) than this.
 






Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,577
The Fatherland
peterward said:
Hold on a sec Enrest, they introduced gay marriage..... party of the rich, could be argued.... you may not like them, but to call them incompetent is disingenious, you cannot back it up......... they inherited a calamity, a financially bankrupt country with the worst economic forecasts of any major western country, they may well leave in 2015, and if they do they will again leave an economy that is better than any western nations, with higher growth than any other (from all independent economic forecasters)... and these was born of policiy decisions that Labour invested all their economic credibility in saying "would not work", its FACT it has worked, its been tough, but its far tougher now in France and we would be where they are as Balls Economic model and ideas were similar to Hollandes.

"Incompetent" is not a word any tribal Labour supporter can cast with a straight face
Click to expand...

If they're doing so well why are the almost certain to lose the next election?
 








D

Deleted member 22389

Guest
Herr Tubthumper said:
I'm sure the millions struggling on minimum wages whilst the rich get tax breaks and the unemployed youth will notice this.
Click to expand...

Are Labour going to make sure every employer gives minimum wage earners a couple of quid an hour more, because that is the only way out.
Are the Labour party going to make things easier for people by lowering everyone's bills, I think not. It will still be the same.
 


Silkster365

Silkster365

Oooo its a corner
Feb 21, 2009
666
Rustington
bashlsdir said:
Are Labour going to make sure every employer gives minimum wage earners a couple of quid an hour more, because that is the only way out.
Are the Labour party going to make things easier for people by lowering everyone's bills, I think not. It will still be the same.
Click to expand...

Exactly. It's easy to point at things like this and blame the Tories, but where did all these problems start?
 


WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,855
The only thing that is certain, is that the gap between the 5% and the 95% will continue to rise massively over the next term of government.

Anyway, back to arguing about 1% either way (there's probably a small percentage of NSC posters enjoying this :angel: ).
 












D

Deleted member 22389

Guest
Silkster365 said:
Exactly. It's easy to point at things like this and blame the Tories, but where did all these problems start?
Click to expand...

It started with Labour, at the same time as the financial markets when in to meltdown and it has never felt or been the same since.
On top of that Labour lost control of our borders, they got us involved in wars, they sold out, spent a lot of money and fcked things up.

They left us with an overpopulated island, short of housing, short of good quality jobs, a debt that needs to be paid back, and a country that now swims in political correctness to cover up the mistakes made by them.
 


Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,797
Hove
bashlsdir said:
It started with Labour, at the same time as the financial markets when in to meltdown and it has never felt or been the same since.
On top of that Labour lost control of our borders, they got us involved in wars, they sold out, spent a lot of money and fcked things up.

They left us with an overpopulated island, short of housing, short of good quality jobs, a debt that needs to be paid back, and a country that now swims in political correctness to cover up the mistakes made by them.
Click to expand...

Johnny-Depp-panics.gif
 


WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,855
bashlsdir said:
It started with Labour, at the same time as the financial markets when in to meltdown and it has never felt or been the same since.
On top of that Labour lost control of our borders, they got us involved in wars, they sold out, spent a lot of money and fcked things up.

They left us with an overpopulated island, short of housing, short of good quality jobs, a debt that needs to be paid back, and a country that now swims in political correctness to cover up the mistakes made by them.
Click to expand...

But you've always said it was the immigrants fault, and now you think it's labour ?

 




beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,312


H

halbpro

Well-known member
Jan 25, 2012
2,865
Brighton
Silkster365 said:
Exactly. It's easy to point at things like this and blame the Tories, but where did all these problems start?
Click to expand...

Probably with the deregulation of US banks from the Carter administration onwards, although likely made worse in 1999 when Bill Clinton repealed the Glass–Steagall Act, coupled with the increasing globalisation of finance institutions and interbank lending.
 


Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,797
Hove
halbpro said:
Probably with the deregulation of US banks from the Carter administration onwards, although likely made worse in 1999 when Bill Clinton repealed the Glass–Steagall Act, coupled with the increasing globalisation of finance institutions and interbank lending.
Click to expand...

Like it wasn't Gordon Brown's fault :facepalm:
 


Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,577
The Fatherland
Silkster365 said:
Exactly. It's easy to point at things like this and blame the Tories, but where did all these problems start?
Click to expand...

With the Thather/Major governments. The privatised everything and as a result you now have a cartel of energy companies fleecing you. And these governments drove wages down to such a degree that Labour had to introduce a minimum wage.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,577
The Fatherland
bashlsdir said:
Are Labour going to make sure every employer gives minimum wage earners a couple of quid an hour more, because that is the only way out.
Are the Labour party going to make things easier for people by lowering everyone's bills, I think not. It will still be the same.
Click to expand...

Remember, it was Labour which introduced the minimum wage. And Ed has said he will look into energy bills.
 


Beach Hut

Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
71,970
Living In a Box
It will be a hung parliament, think Cameron needs to move on he is poor for Conservative standards.

Milliband will ensure Labour will remain unelectable.
 


You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here