Just a thought - Ricardo Vaz Te

Stat Brother · Jul 19, 2014

I can't see it myself.

A percentage of the Ulloa cash ought to be spent on a striker.
I just don't think there's value in the UK.

I imagine there's a few cheaper Vaz Te's dotted around Europe, or better quality for Vaz Te money.

I'd love it if before the end of August the club unveiled a striker with Germanic or Scandinavian connections.
The Burkers wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

Hyperion · Jul 19, 2014

Stat Brother said:
I can't see it myself.

A percentage of the Ulloa cash ought to be spent on a striker.
I just don't think there's value in the UK.

I imagine there's a few cheaper Vaz Te's dotted around Europe, or better quality for Vaz Te money.

I'd love it if before the end of August the club unveiled a striker with Germanic or Scandinavian connections.
The Burkers wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

I have to agree with you on the value point.

There must be plenty of bargains to be had in Europe for our budget.

Stat Brother · Jul 19, 2014

Hyperion said:
I have to agree with you on the value point.

There must be plenty of bargains to be had in Europe for our budget.

Clearly it's easier said than done.
Plus we're not shopping at Lidl's with Waitrose cash, we is going up in the world.

It's more of a statement about the considered value of players like Vaz Te.

It feels like you can almost predict what you'll get:-

a strong start
a bit of publicity
a bit of a drought
injury
then just as the wider footballing community 'forgets' them, they get some kind of form.

For that you have to pay £5+m, on the strength of a few nice goals in high profile games.

Hyperion · Jul 19, 2014

Stat Brother said:
Clearly it's easier said than done.
Plus we're not shopping at Lidl's with Waitrose cash, we is going up in the world.

It's more of a statement about the considered value of players like Vaz Te.

It feels like you can almost predict what you'll get:-

a strong start
a bit of publicity
a bit of a drought
injury
then just as the wider footballing community 'forgets' them, they get some kind of form.

For that you have to pay £5+m, on the strength of a few nice goals in high profile games.

Good point.

I don't think it's always a case of having to break our wage structure with players like Vaz Te.

Sometimes, players are more happy getting games and limelight than dollars.

It's rare, but it does happen

Rod Marsh · Jul 20, 2014

I don't want him anywhere near our side. I think there are far better options out there. We can do better

L2MidgetGem B.H.A Seagull · Jul 20, 2014

Rod Marsh said:
I don't want him anywhere near our side. I think there are far better options out there. We can do better

Who would you get In under our current budget and wage structure who is better than Vaz Te and who Is available?

Pinkie Brown · Jul 20, 2014

All conjecture from us of course, but we could do a lot worse. He tore our defence to pieces on the day of that awful 6-0 defeat and I was mighty impressed with him. If we did have our sights on him, the stumbling block could of course be wages.

* Awaiting to see which tabloid/rumour site is first to have this speculation as 'fact'.

Stat Brother · Jul 20, 2014

He's just a player.
He's a player that comfortably sits in the 20 club zone that covers the bottom of the Prem and the top of the championship.
Because of wages, contract and ability he's never going beyond or below that comfort zone.

The problem as has been said already is because he's already on the gravy train he's so expensive.

I'd much rather spend some of the Leo cash on a player hungry for the payday, not one already getting it.

Barrel of Fun · Jul 20, 2014

From the look of his appearances, he seems to have enjoyed being in the Premier League more than playing football. If wiki is right, he made 60 appearances for Bolton over 7 years.

Mannie · Jul 20, 2014

£13k is a lot, but he doesn't seem have to many options in the prem otherwise he would have moved or have been moved on by now. Good performances at WHU, can't remember much of him at Hibs or Barnsley

Rod Marsh · Jul 20, 2014

L2MidgetGem B.H.A Seagull said:
Who would you get In under our current budget and wage structure who is better than Vaz Te and who Is available?

Any young technical player that has pace and is keen to impress. I'd much rather see a loan come in than a Vaz Te. My impression of him is he is inconsistent and likes the big time too much. If you look at his career he seems more then happy getting splinters or not even getting in the match day squad.

Finchley Seagull · Jul 20, 2014

Stat Brother said:
I can't see it myself.

A percentage of the Ulloa cash ought to be spent on a striker.
I just don't think there's value in the UK.

I imagine there's a few cheaper Vaz Te's dotted around Europe, or better quality for Vaz Te money.

I'd love it if before the end of August the club unveiled a striker with Germanic or Scandinavian connections.
The Burkers wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

I completely agree with this. Strikers in this country are massively overpriced. Why get one of them when you can get a deal like Ulloa. Even if the original reports are right, we've tripled our investment in one and a half years and he's been great for us.

jevs · Jul 20, 2014

Pretty sure Vaz Te is still pretty much part of Big Sam's plans. Missed most of last season through injury.

Justice · Jul 20, 2014

Rod Marsh said:
I don't want him anywhere near our side. I think there are far better options out there. We can do better

Reason? Hes quality at this level.

perseus · Jul 20, 2014

Rohan Ince's Python said:
Just a thought - wages.

Average first teamer in the Premier League gets about £26K a week, Youngsters may get £10K a week,. Experienced Premier League professionals are likely to be beyond our wages budget and I have discounted all of them.

Premier youngsters
Lower league players
Foreigners

Seem to fit the wages budget.

Mackenzie · Nov 23, 2014

Available for loan according to the FL Paper (now featuring Adam Virgo!).

Could do a job!

glasfryn · Nov 23, 2014

MacKenzie said:
Available for loan according to the FL Paper (now featuring Adam Virgo!).

Could do a job!

with a view to buy later .............get in

DarrenFreemansPerm · Nov 23, 2014

MacKenzie said:
Available for loan according to the FL Paper (now featuring Adam Virgo!).

Could do a job!

No doubt his wages are horrendous, but I'd be very happy if this was something that could happen for us.

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · Nov 23, 2014

glasfryn said:
with a view to buy later .............get in

He might be out of contract at the end of the season. He originally signed for West Ham in Jan 2012 on a 2.5 year contract with an option of a third year. If West Ham don't take that option he can leave at the end of the season for nothing. Although as he is still only 28 I imagine quite a few clubs would be interested in him if he was available for free, however a player of his presence and size is exactly what we are missing at the moment up front.

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