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Ridiculous. Outrageous.
Ridiculous. Outrageous.
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The establishment and historic child sex abuse
- Thread starter Pinkie Brown
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clippedgull
Hotdogs, extra onions
Your link got mangled and leads to an error page... Here is the correct link for those interested...
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/16/lord-janner-no-trial-abuse-claims
spring hall convert
Well-known member
Thanks.
Totally agree. An absolute total disgrace. All the hallmarks of an establishment cover up. Whatever their age, whatever their health, whomever they were/are, if the evidence is there. Prosecute.
Chief Wiggum
New member
- Apr 30, 2009
- 518
As decisions go this one truly stinks.
Not in the public interest? What about the interests and rights of the 20+ young men he is alleged to have abused?
I don't care how old or how ill Janner is he should be held to account.
Not in the public interest? What about the interests and rights of the 20+ young men he is alleged to have abused?
I don't care how old or how ill Janner is he should be held to account.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
There is a case for saying that having a defendant with an advanced case of Alzheimer's makes it difficult to achieve a meaningful fair criminal trial. BUT ... this doesn't rule out referring the matter to the full scrutiny of whichever one of the Inquiries that have been set up would be appropriate.
Chief Wiggum
New member
- Apr 30, 2009
- 518
I agree that IF his Alzheimers is that bad then it would make a trial difficult if not impossible. However remember this case? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Saunders
Should they wish to do so, those victims should be allowed the right to disclose - in full detail - the alleged offences that were committed against them and who carried out those alleged offences. If this has to be in the form of some other inquiry then so be it.
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 30,582
There seems to be a pattern emerging here for MPs:
1. Drop enquiry if MP still fit.
2. Reopen enquiry once chronic medical condition diagnosed.
1. Drop enquiry if MP still fit.
2. Reopen enquiry once chronic medical condition diagnosed.
Crispy Ambulance
Well-known member
No comment from Keith Vaz yet? Strange that!
gregbrighton
New member
Appalling really but not surprising. Let's hope after the election the police and the authorities will make headway into bringing people to account. There is a rich seam of Conservative individuals to have their comeuppance soon. It's about time some of the victims got justice against these evil monsters.
spring hall convert
Well-known member
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-32329924
In a statement Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders said there was enough evidence to charge him with:
■Fourteen indecent assaults on a male under 16 between 1969 and 1988
■Two indecent assaults between 1984 and 1988
■Four counts of buggery of a male under 16 between 1972 and 1987
■Two counts of buggery between 1977 and 1988
In a statement Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders said there was enough evidence to charge him with:
■Fourteen indecent assaults on a male under 16 between 1969 and 1988
■Two indecent assaults between 1984 and 1988
■Four counts of buggery of a male under 16 between 1972 and 1987
■Two counts of buggery between 1977 and 1988
... or they're dead
Sad to see the Ernest Saunders defence is still getting an outing
glasfryn
cleaning up cat sick
sergeant Mick Creedon was ordered not to arrest him and that must have been before 1989 as that was when he reported it to a newspaper
I don't like to say this but why do we have police when they are hamstrung by politicians
one case then and the floodgates would have opened
all starts coming out when its to late
if they the police know who these people are arrest them and lets get on with ridding ourselves of this scum
I don't like to say this but why do we have police when they are hamstrung by politicians
one case then and the floodgates would have opened
all starts coming out when its to late
if they the police know who these people are arrest them and lets get on with ridding ourselves of this scum
spring hall convert
Well-known member
Meanwhile.............. http://news.sky.com/story/1465825/rotherham-worker-told-to-give-girls-to-abusers
spring hall convert
Well-known member
I get very uneasy with party politics in this thread. Cyril Smith was a Liberal, Greville Janner was Labour and Leon Brittan, Conservative. They all got away with it. This is not a party political issue.
glasfryn
cleaning up cat sick
spring hall convert
Well-known member
Some very interesting stuff on the Exaro Twitter account at the moment.
https://twitter.com/ExaroNews
Leicestershire police "livid" about the decision not to prosecute.
https://twitter.com/ExaroNews
Leicestershire police "livid" about the decision not to prosecute.
glasfryn
cleaning up cat sick
yeh and I am livid at all the police who ignored the kids who came to them asking for help
its about 20/30 years to late to start complaining about prosicutions
Indeed and it goes beyond party politics too. I have read that Exaro site, there are references to top brass in the military, judiciary, police forces, show business, civil service, royalty and others!
The CPS should go after these scum until their dying breath. I am fuming about Jenner.
spring hall convert
Well-known member
I don't think anything will really get done until we are all outside Buckingham Palace with pitchforks.