Northstander
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- Oct 13, 2003
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Moyes gone!
- Thread starter Dumseagull
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This is all conjecture though - you could have said that last year when United won the league at a canter with a squad full of bang average players (by their standards). Smalling, Evans, Jones, Cleverly, Fletcher etc. None of these players has any business winning the league title, never mind easily, yet Ferguson managed it somehow.
I don't think Moyes was up to the rebuilding job personally, but he would have needed more than 1 season to do that in any case, because many of the players he inherited aren't good enough to play at that level, except in the situation where the manager was the greatest manager the UK has probably ever produced.
It'll be interesting to see how many of the high earners start grizzling now. Rooney for example, has stomped off demanding a ridiculously OTT contract, twice now. He for one OWES it to Man Utd to help get them back into Europe. I bet he doesn't.
brakespear
Doctor Worm
Stupid decision imo. I know people are saying the position with United is different to 1986 but the team still required significant rebuilding. I guess the majot problem for Moyes this season was Fellaini working out about as well as Veron and Forlan did but I still think he should have been given more time. From a personal point of view, I guess I can only hope that United's downward trend continues under Giggs and then the next manager 
carteater
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I bet poyet will try out for the job when he gets sacked for gross misconduct from sunderland after being suspended for 2 weeks because he said they had hit the roof...
- Jul 10, 2003
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Heard some old fool waffling on about the financials of Man Utd on five live this lunchtime. Where do they drag these people up from 
fat old seagull
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Is that to visit his kids?
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I think Moyes' downfall was his two awful transfer windows, especially the summer one. The botched attempts to buy Fellaini and Baines on the cheap, then overpaying for Fellaini and not getting Baines, wasting time chasing Fabregas while Arsenal secured Ozil. Mata was a good signing but he needed more steel in midfield and defence and failed to buy this in over the winter.
It remains to be seen how scarred he'll be by this experience. The most likely job is Newcastle - they'd kill for a decade of security the like of which he delivered at Everton. If he didn't fancy the Prem I could also see the Celtic job happening if Lennon gets a Prem job later on this year - they'll need someone decent to keep Rangers at bay when they return to the SPL in 2015/16, but then Malky Mackay will also be in the frame for that.
It remains to be seen how scarred he'll be by this experience. The most likely job is Newcastle - they'd kill for a decade of security the like of which he delivered at Everton. If he didn't fancy the Prem I could also see the Celtic job happening if Lennon gets a Prem job later on this year - they'll need someone decent to keep Rangers at bay when they return to the SPL in 2015/16, but then Malky Mackay will also be in the frame for that.
carteater
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BensGrandad
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Moyes biggest mistake was signing Fellani at a price way above his worth.
drew
Drew
Since when has the charity shield (or community shield/cup or whatever it is now) been the equivalent of the FA Cup?
It would be extremely unlikely that even Ferguson would be given the time now that he had when he first got the job. There was no champions league or the premier league millions to lose then!
Of course, we could all be ignoring the fact that Moyes was the fall guy all along. Maybe they knew the problems that faced anyone taking over from Ferguson (and maybe most of the top names didn't want the job on that basis) so got in a cheap interim so that long term big name would be following in the footsteps of Moyes rather than the legacy of Ferguson's reign. Just a thought!
I would not be surprised at all if that last thought you had wasn't somewhere in the back of the minds of those concerned.
red star portslade
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"It's an unusual club Manchester United, it really is," said Ferguson at the Red Devils' end-of-season awards dinner.
"If you look at the behaviour of some clubs, sacking managers left, right and centre.
"I'm not naming any one club - it's the whole bloody lot of them.
"We as a club show patience, show trust, show loyalty and it's rewarded.
Great theory. If that was your plan, you'd definitely give the 'cheap interim' a SIX YEAR contract.
Definitely.
I don't think it would have been part of the plan at all, but it's certainly a by product of all this mess.
Bwian
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- Jul 14, 2003
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There was always the get out by not qualifying for CL Football which was always a good probability. If, by some fluke, Moyes' team qualified they would have been patting themselves on the back and it would be business as usual.
Tricky Dicky
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If the pay off is one years money regardless, if they fail to qualify for the CL, it's completely irrelevent how long the contract is. I suspect they wanted Moyes to work out but they can't ignore that it hasn't, so may as well act now.
Worthingite
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Can definitely see Moyes in the running for the Spurs job now.
I actually like him as a manager, and I think wherever he goes next he will vindicate himself. I think anyone would have had a tough time going into OT after Fergie.
I actually like him as a manager, and I think wherever he goes next he will vindicate himself. I think anyone would have had a tough time going into OT after Fergie.
drew
Drew
But the rumours are that that was conditional on CL otherwise he just gets a year. So if that is correct they have covered the bases if he fails but have tied him in if he is successful!
What was conditional? The compensation?
Godstar
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Apparently David Moyes has walked straight into a job with Sky…
He installs his first dish on Monday.
He installs his first dish on Monday.