Concratulations Luton Town

Man of Harveys · Apr 16, 2014

The Large One said:
And then there was this bloke...

Luton fans feel about him the way we feel about Archer and Bellotti. Should people hate us because of those two?

I'm delighted to have them back in the league: proper football club with excellent support.

WhingForPresident · Apr 16, 2014

Tubby Mondays said:
My point is; if any other clubs forum were to describe Brighton fans, the city of Brighton and any of the previous grounds that we have played in, in the manner that the majority of people have in this thread, the internet would crash and there would be soaking wet mattresses from Peacehaven to Poole as people said how nasty and wrong they were.

Yet it is quite alright for us to say all of that and more about another club, another place and other fans.

And you use a story from the Daily Mail (where else?) of a riot taking place against York City (what sort of clubs fans would do something like that - should be kicked out of the league?!) to illustrate it.

We seem to have gone from discussing their fans to discussing whether Luton is a shithole or not, which I'm really not interested in having a debate about, so I'll leave it at that.

Man of Harveys · Apr 16, 2014

Surrey_Albion said:
Back in the 70s , thats where their mentality towards "bloody poofs" and "nigs nogs" still is.....w@#@$#!!!

Hmm. The one time I attended a game at Kenilworth Road in the away end - can't remember when, it was midweek about 15 years ago at a guess - I got a text from a Luton supporting mate of mine saying that he couldn't believe that an awful lot of Brighton fans were singing "you're just a town full of pakis" to them. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

Stato · Apr 16, 2014

I am shocked at the denigration of a team that was a massive part of the UK in the seventies...

"I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order."
"He'll never sell any ice creams going at that speed."
"Nice out isn't it?" "Yes, I'll think I'll get mine out."

Plastic pitch, away fan banning Luton however...

Tubby Mondays · Apr 16, 2014

WhingForPresident said:
We seem to have gone from discussing their fans to discussing whether Luton is a shithole or not, which I'm really not interested in having a debate about, so I'll leave it at that.

Yes clearly. I should have written something like: 'My point is; if any other clubs forum were to describe Brighton fans, …… in the manner that the majority of people have in this thread, the internet would crash and there would be soaking wet mattresses from Peacehaven to Poole as people said how nasty and wrong they were'.

Then you might have wanted to continue the debate. Still no great loss to the board, me, you or indeed anyone else I shouldnt wonder.

Simster · Apr 16, 2014

Man of Harveys said:
Hmm. The one time I attended a game at Kenilworth Road in the away end - can't remember when, it was midweek about 15 years ago at a guess - I got a text from a Luton supporting mate of mine saying that he couldn't believe that an awful lot of Brighton fans were singing "you're just a town full of pakis" to them. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

That was indeed cringeworthy. And even worse was "you're just a small town near Delhi". We do take a remarkable number of absolute gimps away to Luton and always have done - easy train journey (no changes) and guaranteed needle with the vast number of local pikeys are the reason I should think.

But none of this detracts from the point - that Luton are a tin-pot scummy club with an absolutely gash ground. And before anyone bangs on about their support this season, they had a good few gates of 6-7,000 in the TOP division back in the day.

I hope they fk off back to the conference, the non-league cn*ts.

papajaff · Apr 16, 2014

**** of a club

Tubby Mondays · Apr 16, 2014

The Large One said:
I'll try to whip up some honest and genuine enthusiasm for Luton To...

Nope. Can't do it. Sod 'em.

And then there was this bloke...

Yeah well fans get the chairman they deserve.

Im sure as many Luton fans voted for him to be Chairman as we did W.A Archer.

Tubby Mondays · Apr 16, 2014

Simster said:
And before anyone bangs on about their support this season, they had a good few gates of 6-7,000 in the TOP division back in the day.

As opposed to Brighton who never had a gate like that?

Simster · Apr 16, 2014

Tubby Mondays said:
As opposed to Brighton who never had a gate like that?

Yes, that's right - as opposed to Brighton, whose gates never dipped below 14,000 when WE were in the first division between 1979 and 1983.

FFS, YOU'RE the one wetting the bed, any time anyone says anything untoward about Luton Town.

The Large One · Apr 16, 2014

Tubby Mondays said:
Yeah well fans get the chairman they deserve.

Im sure as many Luton fans voted for him to be Chairman as we did W.A Archer.

I'm sure many Luton Town fans campaigned hard to get rid of him as we did W.A. Archer.

hans kraay fan club · Apr 16, 2014

Simster said:
We do take a remarkable number of absolute gimps away to Luton and always have done - easy train journey (no changes) and guaranteed needle with the vast number of local pikeys are the reason I should think.

Quite. I'd daresay those you refer to as 'gimps' - the ones who still, even now, think that a few handbags and a little bit of coin throwing and 'hold me back, hold me back' bullshit, is all part of the fun - are among the very few, happy to welcome Luton back.

Tubby Mondays · Apr 16, 2014

Simster said:
Yes, that's right - as opposed to Brighton, whose gates never dipped below 14,000 when WE were in the first division between 1979 and 1983.

Are you sure about that?

Tubby Mondays · Apr 16, 2014

Simster said:
FFS, YOU'RE the one wetting the bed, any time anyone says anything untoward about Luton Town.

Just the double standards.

feel free not to contribute if it offends your sensibilities.

Simster · Apr 16, 2014

Tubby Mondays said:
Are you sure about that?

Not entirely. Let's say no gate under 9,500 in the top flight to be absolutely safe.

Tubby Mondays said:
Just the double standards.

feel free not to contribute if it offends your sensibilities.

I have contributed thanks. One of my contributions was to point out their shìt support back in the day. Obviously this sent you into a bit of a flap, so you desperately tried to prove double standards like you have when ANYONE says anything derogatory about them.

Only the simple fact is that our lowest gate in the top flight was about 50% higher than their lowest first division gate, probably more. So no double standards here.

Tubby Mondays · Apr 16, 2014

Simster said:
Not entirely. Let's say no gate under 9,500 in the top flight to be absolutely safe.

I have contributed thanks. One of my contributions was to point out their shìt support back in the day. Obviously this sent you into a bit of a flap, so you desperately tried to prove double standards like you have when ANYONE says anything derogatory about them.

Only the simple fact is that our lowest gate in the top flight was about 50% higher than their lowest first division gate, probably more. So no double standards here.

Yeah lets say that to be safe.

http://www.11v11.com/matches/brighton-and-hove-albion-v-notts-county-27-november-1982-86418/
http://www.11v11.com/matches/brighton-and-hove-albion-v-norwich-city-11-december-1982-86440/

essbee · Apr 16, 2014

Tubster - I wouldn't argue with Simster. I can normally get the better of him
but I'm in a small minority

Man of Harveys · Apr 16, 2014

Tubby Mondays said:
Are you sure about that?

I was going to say...we - probably along with Luton and a few others - were mentioned in an annual I got for Christmas back then as one of a few First Division clubs who at times struggled to get 10,000 through the gate. The good old days weren't always good, to quote Billy Joel.

Maybe a lot of the slightly surprising bile towards them on this thread is that in fact they're probably pretty similar to us in some respects: similar crowds, similar level of (under)achievement, crappy ground, as ours was in Div 1 etc.

Simster · Apr 16, 2014

Tubby Mondays said:
Yeah lets say that to be safe.

http://www.11v11.com/matches/brighton-and-hove-albion-v-notts-county-27-november-1982-86418/
http://www.11v11.com/matches/brighton-and-hove-albion-v-norwich-city-11-december-1982-86440/

So a shade under 10,000 TWICE, compared to Luton's 6,200 against Southampton in 1986 and 6-7,000 on countless occasions. You've just proved my point nicely.

Tubby Mondays · Apr 16, 2014

Simster said:
I have contributed thanks. One of my contributions was to point out their shìt support back in the day. Obviously this sent you into a bit of a flap, so you desperately tried to prove double standards like you have when ANYONE says anything derogatory about them.

Only the simple fact is that our lowest gate in the top flight was about 50% higher than their lowest first division gate, probably more. So no double standards here.

Yeah youre a regular Jeremy Paxman. Im flapping like a bird on its maiden flight.

Quite clearly the double standards I was referring to was the denigrating of club and its fans on this thread, who have done no worse than some of our fans and suffered at the hands of poor ownership, and pointed out that if the abuse was coming the other way many tears and urine would be shed.

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