I'm disappointed he did not refuse to give Southern anymore money stating he felt he had paid what he felt the shit they serve up is worth.
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Should 'Commuter A' have been Prosecuted?
- Thread starter Barrel of Fun
- Start date
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,219
The smug tw*t shouldn't have been allowed to just pay the money back in two shakes of a lamb's tail and keep calm and carry on like nothing had happened. At the very least he should have been named and shamed, with all the consequences that follow. A criminal record might just have f*cked him up a little bit. Wasted opportunity by the railways.
He should have been BANNED from travelling on SouthEastern trains, in the same way that a shoplifter gets banned from the shop they steal from. That would screw him over quite nicely.
London Irish
Well-known member
Huh? Is that really the case?
Meade's Ball
Well-known member
Normally i'm the sort of chap who rejoices quietly when some bigwig gets caught in an act of greed, but not in this case so. I don't see his fine as unjust and demand he pays nowt in return, but i don't see bunkers on as some terrible criminal in contrast with myself as a perfect everytime buyer and follower of rules. I might be the latter, but that's usually down to a fear of confrontation rather than a man without possible sin in his heart. I'd rather we all got around at affordable rates and did so with just a few less barriers. I know this chap could afford it and didn't and is a representation of the self-inclinedness of the capitalist state, but i don't scream murder when someone's not paying to jump on a train that is not in the slightest luxury travel or clap a huge company for ensnaring someone they class as cheating the system nefariously from their faultless perspective.
Just checked on South Eastern Railway site and a season ticket from Stonegate to London is £4548. Are the railway company saying he managed to avoid paying fares for 10 years??
Surley there must be a massive gap in their processes if one individual can go unoticed for that ammount of time.
Not quite - 5 years. They made him pay 5 years worth of single fares each way (ie almost twice as much as a return at peak times) plus costs. Should have thrown the book at him but as mentioned above I think it's a civil matter so Southern will just be happy to get their cash, and the publicity. Would be interesting to see if there was a big spike in season ticket sales today. Really can't see how he got away with it for so long though - I reckon my ticket is checked at least 2-3 times per week.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,219
If the railways had any self-respect they'd leak 'Commuter A' s identity via The Sun or The Mirror. Which hopefully will happen before the week is out. Hoorah!
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
No. Regulation of railways act 1889, sections 5(3) & 5(1)
It's a criminal prosecution (or not in this case).
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,312
not really. he's said fair cop and paid the full daily fare. pretty much same as anyone caught without a ticket by conductor, if they don't kick up a fuss (or make a "i was in a rush " plea), they have the money and pay there and then no more is heard of it.
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
So your advice to season ticket holders is do not to pay unless you are unlucky enough to get caught?
studio150
Well-known member
Should have been in court for fraud and locked up for at least five years.
Vegas Seagull
New member
- Jul 10, 2009
- 7,782
When the 7am LA to LB is delayed by an hour or two, which has happened many times of the thousands of journeys I have made, I have never seen a Ticket Executive handing out 800 x £40 to us all at the barrier
worthingseagull123
Well-known member
- May 5, 2012
- 2,579
I am sure train companies through the courts could get individuals banned. Verbal abuse to staff etc.
Southeastern are as much failures as Southern though. They will be long gone when the franchise is up.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
The Southern Franchise expands to be even bigger soon.
maltaseagull
Well-known member
Lower West Stander
Well-known member
Nice rant
And those who insist on invading my leg space by putting bags under their seats (what is wrong with overhead lockers anyway?)
If you had gone on, would you have included :
And those with Apple earphones, which are useless
And those who constantly text but have keypad tones on
And those who simply have to make a call to MOAN about the DREADFUL train being 3 MINUTES late
And those that use laptops that have dodgy keys so they have to whack them really hard. All the way to London
And those that eat stuff, and then either leave the wrappers on the table or crumple it up and surreptitiously drop it on the floor
And those that eat and wipe their fingers on the seat
And those that put their coat on the luggage rack laid out to it's full length
Etc
And those with Apple earphones, which are useless
And those who constantly text but have keypad tones on
And those who simply have to make a call to MOAN about the DREADFUL train being 3 MINUTES late
And those that use laptops that have dodgy keys so they have to whack them really hard. All the way to London
And those that eat stuff, and then either leave the wrappers on the table or crumple it up and surreptitiously drop it on the floor
And those that eat and wipe their fingers on the seat
And those that put their coat on the luggage rack laid out to it's full length
Etc
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 27,894
Prosecution. He deliberately avoided paying paying for a ticket he could well afford. certainly no mistake as according to the papers he had to get off and on at different points as part of the deliberate evasion. However, surely there should have been at least a few ticket inspectors on board once in a while over the 5 years ? I wonder if there are a few regular commuters looking a bit sweaty just now ?