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Do you believe in man made climate change?
- Thread starter nicko31
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I like to follow and believe scientific evidence and peer reviews, hence of course I bloody believe it.
I expect a proportion of the public to not believe it as they don't have the facts, or have the care to research. Try finding a person with money in fossil fuels that isn't a denier. I think that tells you the story.
I expect a proportion of the public to not believe it as they don't have the facts, or have the care to research. Try finding a person with money in fossil fuels that isn't a denier. I think that tells you the story.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Similar to notters in that I help developments happen, the interest of most of my clients is that they'd buld everything as quickly and cheeply as they can. But I've still read enough to know that I believe human caused climate change is occurring.
Gazwag
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I wonder if the dinosaurs had a poll on Northstandroar
Poll: This here 6 mile wide meteor that's on its way
This poll will close on 20-02-66,035,986BC at 15:45
Yes I think that meteor strike will wipe us out
No don't be a **** the worse thing that will happen is we will get a massive fireworks display
Poll: This here 6 mile wide meteor that's on its way
This poll will close on 20-02-66,035,986BC at 15:45
Yes I think that meteor strike will wipe us out
No don't be a **** the worse thing that will happen is we will get a massive fireworks display
matthew
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The amount of money invested in the research of climate change is absolutely minuscule compared to the amount of money invested in businesses that stand to directly lose from climate change reduction policies (coal companies, oil companies), and which have verifiably donated money to think tanks that promote skepticism on climate change. Besides, even if the climate change wasn't anthropogenic, it would still be a serious risk and climate change scientists would still get their money to study it - they have no real incentives to directly pin it on humanity if there was no strong evidence that it was man-made. That's particularly the case since studying anthropogenic climate change tends to draw in attacks from outside parties, including legal harassment (such as what Ken Cuccinelli tried to do to Michael Mann when he was attorney general of Virginia).*
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We can measure the effects of CO2 in trapping heat in the laboratory, and have been able to do so since the 1920s. The models aren't perfect, but they've made predictions that held up under examination, including the prediction of the effects of short-term events like the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo on the climate and weather. Even scientists who were deeply skeptical about the modeling have come around due to the strength of many independent lines of evidence for anthropogenic climate change, such as Richard Muller (who wrote an extremely good essay for the*New York Times*about why he came around to it despite skepticism). It's like the evidence for evolution, which does not come from one single source but many.
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We can measure the effects of CO2 in trapping heat in the laboratory, and have been able to do so since the 1920s. The models aren't perfect, but they've made predictions that held up under examination, including the prediction of the effects of short-term events like the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo on the climate and weather. Even scientists who were deeply skeptical about the modeling have come around due to the strength of many independent lines of evidence for anthropogenic climate change, such as Richard Muller (who wrote an extremely good essay for the*New York Times*about why he came around to it despite skepticism). It's like the evidence for evolution, which does not come from one single source but many.
nicko31
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Incurring some sacrifices means changing our behaviour to a more sustainable lifestyle, preferably via tax incentives. As more and more people get effected by climate change global opinion will change both in the west and the developing world
While we have all this rain Australia has a severe drought, they will soon be reliant on imported food..
Meade's Ball
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I tend to think we play a strong part in climate change, but at the same time often think how we like to think we're responsible for everything in the same way that we like to believe that we are made in the image of God. We all look like replicas of deities, for heaven's sake. We like to think we have a hand in everything, at present with a permanent sense of gloom it's to bring about catastrophes that will destroy the world and more, as if that really matters in the wider scheme of things.
So, i think we probably do have a dark influence on these current meteoroligical outbursts, but at the same time we do it in a somehow destructive godly fashion.
So, i think we probably do have a dark influence on these current meteoroligical outbursts, but at the same time we do it in a somehow destructive godly fashion.
"Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
These are scientists, not politicians, and 97% is a massive consensus when it comes to science. Of course it's anthropogenic. So many other theories that people are happy to accept as fact have less scientific consensus than ACC.
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
These are scientists, not politicians, and 97% is a massive consensus when it comes to science. Of course it's anthropogenic. So many other theories that people are happy to accept as fact have less scientific consensus than ACC.
Quite. They would be extinct. As would pigs, chickens, and anything else man grows or nurtures to eat. And so, for that matter, would man be extinct as well.
Err... ok?
You can't avoid what nature has in mind for you.
The weather will get worse and then the weather will get better, and worse, and better, and some species will die out and new species will dominate. It's called evolution and has been happening for billions of years.
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
- 19,722
Yes, I am not a f***ing idiot
And heavily swayed by the pharmaceutical companies which tout them to sell their wares.
The world expert on the Arctic ice said on TV it is a fallacy that it is melting any more than it usually does, within its cycles.