Time for a British manager and 4-4-2

pauli cee · Feb 2, 2014

I appreciate all the clamour for 2 up top. and also the reason why this is an outdated style that has been proved not to work, but surely the problem isn't the formation, but the players used within it.
4-3-3/4-2-3-1 can work fine if the right players are involved, 2 wide pacey midfielders and some creativity and support for the lone striker and you're laughing....

Brighton Mod · Feb 2, 2014

When teams come to the Amex and play two strikers, I sometimes wonder why we don't have the confidence to. If we're losing a game why not try it, if I remember against Barnsley, when we lost, we replaced Barnes with Lita. Just an observation but why not. We have struggled to score goals for two and half seasons now in the Championship something is not right with our formation.

Brighton Mod · Feb 2, 2014

pauli cee said:
I appreciate all the clamour for 2 up top. and also the reason why this is an outdated style that has been proved not to work, but surely the problem isn't the formation, but the players used within it.
4-3-3/4-2-3-1 can work fine if the right players are involved, 2 wide pacey midfielders and some creativity and support for the lone striker and you're laughing....

Clearly that outdated style is not working at Manchester City and Liverpool? :shootself

Miami Seagull · Feb 2, 2014

I do agree with the OP. Our style is far more suited to the Prem than the Championship. We are far too negative at home with our formation - our away games haven't been too bad - but we have to find a way to play two up front.

pauli cee · Feb 2, 2014

Brighton Mod said:
Clearly that outdated style is not working at Manchester City and Liverpool?

fair point, that was actually going to be my original post, think I might be confused.....

MattBackHome · Feb 2, 2014

Seagulls1984 said:
Don't think we will get out of this league playing under a foreign manager. Think the foreign style works in the prem but not in the championship .

You are brainless

Miami Seagull · Feb 2, 2014

MattBackHome said:
You are brainless

Not necessarily. Only di Matteo has managed it recently. Here's a list of the managers that have taken teams up in the last 5 years

Mackay
Holloway (twice ffs)
Allardyce
Bruce
Lambert
Warnock
Coyle
McLeish
McCarthy

And here are the names of the managers of the current top 7 teams

Pearson, Dyche, Redknapp, Davies, Adkins, Mclaren, McCarthy.

Do you notice a trend? Careful before you call someone brainless - the facts are against you.

Virtually all of these have managed to work out an effective way to play with 2 up front.

Blues Rock DJ · Feb 2, 2014

GingerBeerMan said:
It's likely Lualua wasn't fit to start and was only there in case someone came off injured. Oscar can see how important he is, I doubt he'd start him on the bench if he was 100% fit.

if he's not fit, wtf is he even doing on the bench ?

Blues Rock DJ · Feb 2, 2014

sparkie said:
Surely not a 'must win' game

if you're thinking about promotion, they're all 'must win' games !

maltaseagull · Feb 2, 2014

Mellotron said:
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BOLLOCKS

Just for clarity, is this in response to the OP or today's performance?

The former I agree. The latter, I don't

Mellotron · Feb 2, 2014

maltaseagull said:
Just for clarity, is this in response to the OP or today's performance?

The former I agree. The latter, I don't

Wasn't at the game.

maltaseagull · Feb 2, 2014

Blues Rock DJ said:
if you're thinking about promotion, they're all 'must win' games !

So Leicester won't get promoted as they didn't win all their games?

Jaguar_uk · Feb 2, 2014

4-4-2 yes, if we are ever to get promotion we have to score goals, it's that simple.
It's ok playing the lone striker, keeping it tight and trying to nick a breakaway goal if you have a strong defence, we don't.

gordonchas · Feb 2, 2014

4-4-2. Atletico Madrid are probably the most effective football team in Europe this season - as I write this they have just gone top of the Spanish League and have only 1 defeat this season in 36 games.

They play 4-4-2 every game, home or away. Admittedly, this is not 4-4-2 in the traditional Alf-Ramsey-esque sense, however 4-4-2 it certainly is. Formation isn't everything.

sparkie · Feb 2, 2014

Blues Rock DJ said:
if you're thinking about promotion, they're all 'must win' games !

I'd say Reading at the Amex is looking like 'must win' now, but maybe not when the match arrives

Blues Rock DJ · Feb 2, 2014

maltaseagull said:
So Leicester won't get promoted as they didn't win all their games?

splitting hairs , I think , they're making a bloody good fist of it.....would you be happy if we were 10 points clear ? numpty.

gjh1971 · Feb 2, 2014

The Wookiee said:
Was Martinez the manager of Swansea when they got promoted out of the championship ?

No, it was Brendan Rogers

maltaseagull · Feb 2, 2014

Blues Rock DJ said:
splitting hairs , I think , they're making a bloody good fist of it.....would you be happy if we were 10 points clear ? numpty.

I was just picking up on your ridiculous statement you idiot.

Herr Tubthumper · Feb 2, 2014

Miami Seagull said:
Here's a list of the managers that have taken teams up in the last 5 years

Mackay
Holloway (twice ffs)
Allardyce
Bruce
Lambert
Warnock
Coyle
McLeish
McCarthy

This is only 10 counting Holloway twice. Who were the other 5?

Blues Rock DJ · Feb 2, 2014

maltaseagull said:
I was just picking up on your ridiculous statement you idiot.

what ridiculous statement was that ? if, indeed , you are in Malta, think you've been spending too much time in 'the gut' ??
merely made the point that Leicester (as you mentioned them) , on current form, will win more matches than they'll lose .

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