Gus after Ulloa?

hans kraay fan club · Jan 23, 2014

One Love said:
Oh, you've just used that stat. I thought you might know something.

I've seen plenty enough of Wickham over the last couple of years to know he's a good striker, with the potential to get a lot better.

Is Leo going to get better at his age? Probably not.

I reckon they are very much comparable right now, and likely to move in opposite directions moving forward - thus a swap worthy of consideration.

Comparing them right now, Leo is probably better in the air (although Wickham IS a big strong bloke, too), but Wickham is MUCH quicker, which is something the Albion team desperatley needs, imo.

Neecha · Jan 23, 2014

Zebedee said:
It seems that out esteemed ex-manager may now be setting his sights on signing Ulloa as well:

http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/foo...t-plots-raid-for-brighton-striker_184689.html

I really wish Poyet would just fish elsewhere and leave our squad alone. He is beginning to piss me off big-time.

Would not be at all surprised, a tidy profit waiting to happen there

janee · Jan 23, 2014

Icy Gull said:
It crossed my mind that he may already have turned his head given the allegedly lacklustre recent performances.

This we all know that the gross misconduct was the promises Gus gave to Bridcutt, Buckley and Ulloa and they've all been a bit **** since

Trigger · Jan 23, 2014

If the deal involves Wickham then it must be taken.

One Love · Jan 23, 2014

hans kraay fan club said:
I've seen plenty enough of Wickham over the last couple of years to know he's a good striker, with the potential to get a lot better.

Is Leo going to get better at his age? Probably not.

I reckon they are very much comparable right now, and likely to move in opposite directions moving forward - thus a swap worthy of consideration.

Comparing them right now, Leo is probably better in the air (although Wickham IS a big strong bloke, too), but Wickham is MUCH quicker, which is something the Albion team desperatley needs, imo.

If Gus came in for him though, he obviously wouldn't agree with you.

ManxSeagull · Jan 23, 2014

Labrokes creating stories to stimulate betting interest

?

I saw this on Twitter last night:

Breaking: Our sky source's believe if we feed you with enough of this crap You will pick up ur phones bet and make us looooads of money #SSN

I still do not know how there isn’t a conflict of interests with Sky/Sky Bet when they release news, transfer rumours etc then announce odds for that news/event happening.

somerset · Jan 23, 2014

Wickham plus £1m..... might work for us,.....

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Jan 23, 2014

Icy Gull said:
I have no idea what your point is

I was agreeing with your point.

Using David Moyes signing Everton players for United as an example that it's not only Poyet who does it.

Not as clean when I need to explain it though :lolol:

Mellotron · Jan 23, 2014

TonyW said:
Poyet is showing every day what an ******** he actually is.

I had huge respect for the man and loved what he did for us - now he can just feck off.

I hope City put 10 past them at Wembley.

You realise EVERY manager does this?

The Large One · Jan 23, 2014

TonyW said:
The wanker is sticking 2 fingers up at us by trying to decimate a squad he helped to build.
His lack of respect for the fans that payed his wages and sang his name is ****ing disgraceful.

Oh grow up.

He is doing his job. HIS JOB.

LamieRobertson · Jan 23, 2014

Trigger said:
If the deal involves Wickham then it must be taken.

Why must?

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Jan 23, 2014

The Large One said:
Oh grow up.

He is doing his job. HIS JOB.

Gus Should be giving US players and MONEY as a THANKYOU to the LOYAL fans.

I PAID HIS WAGES....with my £10 a week.

hans kraay fan club · Jan 23, 2014

One Love said:
If Gus came in for him though, he obviously wouldn't agree with you.

What matters to Gus though, is which of the two are worth more to HIM, between now and May. Nothing else. If Leo's a spent force in two years' time and Wickham is worth £10m, Gus would (rightly?) not care, so long as Sunderland stay up this season, and he keeps that blemish off his CV.

It obviously is all down to opinions though, but having seen very recent performances from both players with my own eyes, mine would be that actually Wickham would add more to their team right now. As you say - Gus doesn't agree.

Icy Gull · Jan 23, 2014

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I was agreeing with your point.

Using David Moyes signing Everton players for United as an example that it's not only Poyet who does it.

Not as clean when I need to explain it though

Ah, I saw you used Fellani as an example and was trying to figure out how Gus trying to sign players that might improve his team could be compared with such an expensive faux pas :smile:

midnight_rendezvous · Jan 23, 2014

TonyW said:
The wanker is sticking 2 fingers up at us by trying to decimate a squad he helped to build.
His lack of respect for the fans that payed his wages and sang his name is ****ing disgraceful.

Exactly he helped build the squad. He knows these players. He knows the strengths so he's in a perfect position to judge whether they would improve his squad. He's not "disrespecting" us at all so stop being a baby

Edit: AND he's hardly going to spend X millions of pounds on players just to piss off Brighton fans is he.

Puppet Master · Jan 23, 2014

Wickham is sheer quality, how can anyone say otherwise?

Bold Seagull · Jan 23, 2014

Icy Gull said:
I'm not sure why anyone would be even a little bit surprised if he tried to lure away players he signed. Poyet is only interested in what will improve his current team, he's not going to give a shit what Brighton fans or board members think.

No, not at all. Even managers leaving with the blessing of their clubs like Martinez and Moyes go back to try to sign players they trust and have worked with consistently. You can only work and give 100% commitment to your current employer. Managers are cut down at the drop of a hat these days, why on earth would they give some kind of moral notion to respecting the feelings of another clubs fans!?

Bold Seagull · Jan 23, 2014

Icy Gull said:
Ah, I saw you used Fellani as an example and was trying to figure out how Gus trying to sign players that might improve his team could be compared with such an expensive faux pas

The analogy would be like Gus coming back ignoring Bridcutt and Ince, and giving us £10m for Ryan Harley!!!

Mo Gosfield · Jan 23, 2014

Poyet this, Poyet that....FFS...it seems that this man is the centre of the Universe for some of the posters on here. Everytime he shits or blows his nose, there are people on here writing about it. They keep wishing him and his players the best of luck and not begrudging any of ours a move to Wearside. If you want to carry on a love affair with Gus Poyet...BECOME A SUNDERLAND FAN.
It doesn't seem to matter to a lot on here that he is de-stabilising us. He has unsettled our best player to such an extent that his head has gone and he doesn't want to turn out for us prior to his move. He is allowing himself to be linked with other players via the media and fanning the flames.
He burnt his bridges with us, big time. He held our club to ransom and scuppered our chances of promotion but still some of you think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If I was TB, I wouldn't do any business with him out of principle.
I guess a lot on here will never be able to move on and will never pay Oscar Garcia the respect he deserves.

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Jan 23, 2014

hans kraay fan club said:
What matters to Gus though, is which of the two are worth more to HIM, between now and May. Nothing else. If Leo's a spent force in two years' time and Wickham is worth £10m, Gus would (rightly?) not care, so long as Sunderland stay up this season, and he keeps that blemish off his CV.

It obviously is all down to opinions though, but having seen very recent performances from both players with my own eyes, mine would be that actually Wickham would add more to their team right now. As you say - Gus doesn't agree.

Exactly. Prem managers have about 18 months to be judged at most before they are "accepted". Even then they are not safe.

Who traditionally buys most of the big youth talents? Man Utd and Arsenal. Why? Because Wenger and Fergie were the only secure people in their job. They could build for the future.

All other managers want HERE and NOW and understanbly so. I would be the exact same. It would be LOVELY to bring someone through the academy....but I'd rather keep my job and buy the finished product.

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