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hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
TV types don't seem to do any research beyond their own opinions. I am sure there are some pundits etc who do, but the majority seem ignorant to footballers not playing in the Premier League.

Considering the salaries the BBC golf club are paid, their lack of knowledge beyond whoever is playing in the Prem at the time, is a disgrace. The commentators are less guilty - they clearly DO carry out a bit of research before matches, but the pundits are taking the piss.
 




hans kraay fan club

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Chandlers Ford
This is why people like Shearer, Townsend, Hansen should be put out to pasture.

Whether or not that statement is true is actually besides the point - pundits like Shearer are PAID to find out about such players (and indeed, entire teams) for the big tournaments, not to go and play golf between matches.

His statement is patently not true. When Newcastle signed him, he'd been a top player in France for over five years and had a drawer full of France caps. My teenage boys know 100 times more about European football than Alan Shearer. He should be ashamed. Its as though he doesn't even watch any football, bar the matches he is paid to endure.
 




Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
31,859
Brighton
I remember a thread on here where people were arguing the he WASN'T "world class"

:lolol:

Yep. Genuinely one of the most ridiculous debates I've ever seen on here. I actually couldn't believe some of the comments I was reading.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Yep. Genuinely one of the most ridiculous debates I've ever seen on here. I actually couldn't believe some of the comments I was reading.

A while back, I needed some convincing, to be honest. I'm well and truly convinced now, mind. Complete player.
 






MikeySmall

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Jul 7, 2003
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:lolol:



Yes. I mean, he's only won titles in Sweden, The Netherlands, Italy, Spain and France.

He's only won the "golden foot" once, Ligue 1 footballer of the year, featured in the Euro 2012 team of the tournament, been Serie A top scorer and Serie A footballer of the year, and accredited with the highest number of Champions League assists last season. Oh, and been Swedish Male Athlete of the Year twice.

And he must stand a good chance of finally winning the Champions League this season as PSG look amazing again.





So Marshy, how exactly is Zlatan "4 goals against England last time we played" Ibrahimovic overrated? Seriously, what more do you expect him to do to justify his hype?

His goal scoring record is pretty crap. :wozza:
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
I recently asked someone why he was not in the Ukraine line-up against England. He's swedish apparently.
 




MJsGhost

Oooh Matron, I'm an
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Jun 26, 2009
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I know ! i see the goals, I see the international record, I have zlatan blindness clearly

Bizarrely, Sweden's record without Zlatan in the side is better than with him in it (I can't remember my source for sure - I think heard it on a podcast, probably football weekly)

For what it's worth, I think he's BRILLIANT
 




Oct 25, 2003
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career club goal scoring record: 280 goals in 549 games (0.51 goals per game)

international record: 46 goals, 94 games (0.48 goals per game)

honours:

Club

Ajax
Eredivisie (2): 2001–02, 2003–04
KNVB Cup (1): 2001–02
Johan Cruijff Shield (1): 2002

Juventus
Serie A (2): 2004–05, 2005–06 (both revoked due to the Calciopoli scandal)

Internazionale
Serie A (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
Supercoppa Italiana (2): 2006, 2008

Barcelona
La Liga (1): 2009–10
Supercopa de España (2): 2009, 2010
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2009

Milan
Serie A (1): 2010–11
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2011

Paris Saint-Germain
Ligue 1 (1): 2012-13
Trophée des champions (1): 2013

Individual
Golden Foot (1): 2012
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Euro 2012 Man of the Match: Sweden vs France
UEFA Euro 2008 Man of the Match: Greece vs Sweden
UEFA Euro 2004 Man of the Match: Italy vs Sweden
UEFA Team of the Year (2): 2007, 2009
UEFA Champions League 2012-13: Highest Assists [65]
ESM Team of the Year (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2012–13
Ligue 1 Player of the Year (1): 2012–13
Ligue 1 Team of the Year (1): 2012–13
Ligue 1 Top Goalscorer (1): 2012–13
Serie A Top Scorer (2): 2009, 2012
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year (4): 2005, 2008, 2009, 2011
Serie A Footballer of the Year (3): 2008, 2009, 2011
Supercoppa Italiana 2011: Man of the Match
Serie A Player of the Month: January 2012
Guldbollen (7): 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Jerringpriset (1): 2007
Swedish Male Athlete of the Year (2): 2007, 2010

"overrated"
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
career club goal scoring record: 280 goals in 549 games (0.51 goals per game)

international record: 46 goals, 94 games (0.48 goals per game)

honours:

Club

Ajax
Eredivisie (2): 2001–02, 2003–04
KNVB Cup (1): 2001–02
Johan Cruijff Shield (1): 2002

Juventus
Serie A (2): 2004–05, 2005–06 (both revoked due to the Calciopoli scandal)

Internazionale
Serie A (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
Supercoppa Italiana (2): 2006, 2008

Barcelona
La Liga (1): 2009–10
Supercopa de España (2): 2009, 2010
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2009

Milan
Serie A (1): 2010–11
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2011

Paris Saint-Germain
Ligue 1 (1): 2012-13
Trophée des champions (1): 2013

Individual
Golden Foot (1): 2012
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Euro 2012 Man of the Match: Sweden vs France
UEFA Euro 2008 Man of the Match: Greece vs Sweden
UEFA Euro 2004 Man of the Match: Italy vs Sweden
UEFA Team of the Year (2): 2007, 2009
UEFA Champions League 2012-13: Highest Assists [65]
ESM Team of the Year (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2012–13
Ligue 1 Player of the Year (1): 2012–13
Ligue 1 Team of the Year (1): 2012–13
Ligue 1 Top Goalscorer (1): 2012–13
Serie A Top Scorer (2): 2009, 2012
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year (4): 2005, 2008, 2009, 2011
Serie A Footballer of the Year (3): 2008, 2009, 2011
Supercoppa Italiana 2011: Man of the Match
Serie A Player of the Month: January 2012
Guldbollen (7): 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Jerringpriset (1): 2007
Swedish Male Athlete of the Year (2): 2007, 2010

"overrated"

NO Champions League wins then? David MAY has one.
 








Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,723
Eastbourne
BARNSLEY scored a goal JUST* like that one, on Saturday.




*a bit

Lol! Yeah. I saw the Barnsley one as one of my friends is a season ticket holder there. It was pretty good. But the Ibrahimobic goal is a bit Vicente-like in the way he fools defenders. Absolutely wonderful, just about the best advert for football I've seen for a long time.
 












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