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symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
My brother is a Fellow of the Institution of Engineering and Technology and Member of the Energy Policy Panel and he has all these letters after his name BSc MSc DIC MBA CEng FIET.

He says that we have to substantially decarbonise electricity by 2030 to be on target for the 2050 carbon reduction requirement.

A combination of renewable and nuclear energy, along with the way we use it has to be taken very seriously.

I believe him, so if we have the technology, which is more affordable now, it would be a milestone in our history leaving the carbon based industrial revolution behind us.

We cannot, not have wind farms.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,310
He says that we have to substantially decarbonise electricity by 2030 to be on target for the 2050 carbon reduction requirement.

we dont "have" to, someone has set an arbitary target and we like good bloody citizens of the world are doing our bit while many others arent. to get anywhere near the target we do indeed need to increase both nuclear and renewables, but no one want nuclear or renewables next door and they cost far more. but we dont want to pay for increase in electricity costs (which is majority of the increase in the past 10 years). or we could de-carbonise coal plants or use more efficient gas, but not allowed to build coal plants and no one wants fracking.

one day, in the mid 2020's when we have rolling blackouts, we'll wonder how the fvck we managed to balls up our energy.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,894
Need to ban planes, trains, lorry’s, buses, cars, motorcycles and bicycles while we are about it then.

Indeed this .
 


symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
we dont "have" to, someone has set an arbitary target and we like good bloody citizens of the world are doing our bit while many others arent. to get anywhere near the target we do indeed need to increase both nuclear and renewables, but no one want nuclear or renewables next door and they cost far more. but we dont want to pay for increase in electricity costs (which is majority of the increase in the past 10 years). or we could de-carbonise coal plants or use more efficient gas, but not allowed to build coal plants and no one wants fracking.

one day, in the mid 2020's when we have rolling blackouts, we'll wonder how the fvck we managed to balls up our energy.

We all have to, it is no good just saying we won't because we don't think anyone else will, it is not FFP.

That said China are up to point on it and leading the way with a thorium nuclear program, a safe alternative to uranium

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/financ...-thorium-nuclear-power-and-good-luck-to-them/

Of course no one wants to live next door to a uranium driven nuclear power station, but I wouldn't have a problem with a thorium one, and I don't have a problem living next to a wind turbine.

Global warming is happening and if we cannot control it the whole ecology of the planet will turn on its head before we reach the 22nd Century.



Just because our species is here today doesn't mean that we will be here tomorrow, because we are at that tipping point.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,024
The arse end of Hangleton
Hope another one knocks them all over like skittles. Skegness has some offshore and they ruin the view.
Windfarms are an eyesore and are inefficient and a bloody waste of public money. Rant over :lolol:

I think they look rather good. Especially the one just off Rye. I also spend a lot of time in France and theirs look brilliant.
 




CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
5,953
Shoreham Beach
you would rather see the downs covered in them to avoid an imaginary and highly unlikely collision at sea?

If the question is, would I rather see the South Downs covered in them, to lower the cost. I think it is worthy of consideration. I really don't think they are that ugly or disruptive. There are 175 planned off the coast, which is not that many across the 100 plus miles length of the South Downs. I guess a second or third offshore development nearby of a similar scale, would swing the argument for me back to offshore.
 




Seagull over Canaryland

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Feb 8, 2011
3,549
Norfolk
Living with two wind farms just offshore I can agree that they are an eyesore and can be inefficient (conspicuously 'static' during periods of peak demand). However I would rather see them offshore than installed across the landscape. IMO they can only be one element of a broader integrated energy strategy.

Yes there is also some potential for errant shipping to cause a collision with subsequent risk of pollution to the coastline - but at least offshore wind farms are a fairly inert form of power generation. On balance I would be more concerned at the environmental risk from accessing shale gas or from the line of nuclear power stations along the north French coast. Sussex is nicely downwind should there be any sort of 'safety event'. While a marine pollution event arising from a shipping / wind farm collision could be disastrous, I suggest it would be more manageable and likely to be cleaned up more readily. Whereas it would be more challenging to mitigate the impact of a nuclear incident. We need an integrated strategy and all forms of generation managed responsibly.
 






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