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EU budget down, but UK contributions up. Good work Dave.



Herr Tubthumper

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Right. I need to get back to my Guardian. I have not even made it past the first page yet :smile:
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Yes. I think it is a good thing and I fully support it BUT every member needs to integrate and pull roughly in the same direction. The UK has rarely seemed to want to do this and is generally at odds with the EU. I have had enough of the UK fannying around; so either put up or shut up and leave. And, I feel the latter option is best for everyone. Mainland Europe can get on with things without hinderance from the UK. And the UK can do whatever it wants to do.
 




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No. It's his spinning of the deal which annoys me. The EU budget has been reduced but not enough to make UK contributions reduce. How's that a victory? It's a bit like Merkel wanting 20k for her second hand Merc, asking for 25 and Dave "successfully" negotiating her down to 20 ie Merkel gets what she wants, Dave things he has got a good deal.

shhhhhh...... don't mention the unique billions rebate this country still gets as negotiated by a tory. i don't like either main party much there both shit, but HT's rhetoric is usual, boring and predictable for a tribal left wing who are still in denial that again they left office leaving a calamatous trail of financial destruction and the country on its kness..... what was the note left at the treasury for the incoming colation??? "sorry there is no money left".

Not wrong, they sold most of our Gold and wasted it on quangos, more beurocrats, throwing money left right and centre at institutions crying out for reform and leaking money. an NHS without any real buying strategy, where some items were being billed to us the taxpayer at massively inflated prices and billions were being thrown straight down the drain.

A government that seemed to love putting people on more and more benefits, and if anyone dare say that inward immigration is to high ( a policy that historically will bring and average of 2 labour voters for every 3 immigrants arriving ) and is puting to big a strain on public services.... hell the nanny state brand you as "racist".

They took us into an Illegal war based on a dosier of lies, they promised a referendum, then renaged, they gave away more of our soverign powers to brussels than any other goverment and why? because Blair has ambitions to be its president.

A Labour goverment that again inherited an economy on a sound footing, totally trashed it and left us almost bankrupt again as it did in 79......

I like the Labour and socialist ethos, more than conservative, and I like many of their policies, but they are wholly and spectacularly financially incompetent, and they alone have given more away to Brussels getting nothing in return

It is Labour that are a complete and proven joke, You may as well get off your high horse HT, as its dead even though you still try and flog it
 
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shhhhhh...... don't mention the unique billions rebate this country still gets as negotiated by a tory. i don't like either main party much there both shit, but HT's rhetoric is usual, boring and predictable for a tribal left wing who are still in denial that again they left office leaving a calamatous trail of financial destruction and the country on its kness..... what was the note left at the treasury for the incoming colation??? "sorry there is no money left".

Not wrong, they sold most of our Gold and wasted it on quangos, more beurocrats, throwing money left right and centre at institutions crying out for reform and leaking money. an NHS without any real buying strategy, where some items were being billed to us the taxpayer at massively inflated prices and billions were being thrown straight down the drain.

A government that seemed to love putting people on more and more benefits, and if anyone dare say that inward immigration is to high ( a policy that historically will bring and average of 2 labour voters for every 3 immigrants arriving ) and is puting to big a strain on public services.... hell the nanny state brand you as "racist". Balls and Milliband what a disaster.

They took us into an Illegal war based on a dosier of lies, they promised a referendum, then renaged, they gave away more of our soverign powers to brussels than any other goverment and why? because Blair has ambitions to be its president.

A Labour goverment that again inherited an economy on a sound footing, totally trashed it and left us almost bankrupt again as it did in 79......

I like the Labour and socialist ethos, more than conservative, and I like many of their policies, but they are wholly and spectacularly financially incompetent, and they alone have given more away to Brussels getting nothing in return

It is Labour that are a complete and proven joke, You may as well get off your high horse HT, as its dead even though you still try and flog it

Completely agree with what you say here. Unfortunately a majority of voters cannot read between these lines. Labour will get in because of all the new voters they have acquired, not by the people who have seen Labours policies slowly ruin this country years before. It's damn annoying. Your right Labour are a complete and utter joke. God help this country if they get back in. Does anyone remember the billions wasted by Labour on that IT project for the NHS.

Just thought I would add this
HOW THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT WASTED TAXPAYERS MONEY
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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:laugh: Nice one OP, massive fail, you dull twat.

I achknowledge the EU budget has previously set parameters. Of course it does you simpleton. The fact of the matter is, he negotiated a reduction in the overall budget which was not significant enough to make any noticeable impact on the UK contribution. Knowing the situation you're entering, not getting what you want, then blaming the same situation is lame in the extreme.
 


beorhthelm

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I achknowledge the EU budget has previously set parameters. Of course it does you simpleton. The fact of the matter is, he negotiated a reduction in the overall budget which was not significant enough to make any noticeable impact on the UK contribution. Knowing the situation you're entering, not getting what you want, then blaming the same situation is lame in the extreme.

no one is reporting this. i can only assume you are refering to changes to net contributions, or changes relative to previous proposed budgets. as far as i recall the stated objective was simply to reduce (or at minimum freeze) the budget. job done.
 








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beorhthelm

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No one is reporting what? That the UK contribution will still rise?

yes. it maybe in the technical detail there is a rise, but it not apparently worthy for even the anti-tory press to make a point on. as above Graudian is saying a £500m saving for us. at the end of the day, the EU's proposed budget rise has been reversed and replaced with a budget cut, an objective set in concert with the aims of Germans, Dutch and others. the objective has been achieved. and the French failed to get a reduction in our rebate. win.
 


glasfryn

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Shameron,Osbourne, and in fact most politicians involved in anything fiscal need to go back to school and learn some Arithmetic
 




Stoo82

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Cameron acknowledged that, while the EU budget as a whole would be reduced, Britain’s own contributions to the EU would increase.

What a clown.

Because new poor nations are comming into the EU and we have to balance out thier payments as they can not affor it. God you are so partizan.
 


abc

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This was due to an agreement made by Tony Blair. Don't let the facts get in the way of political bias.

Just shows the ignorance of the OP. It's the problem we all have of spouting forth on political issues when few, if any of us, ever really know what we are talking about or have bothered to check all the facts on BOTH sides of an argument!
 


BadFish

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This will be a zzzzzzzz thread of entrenched views.

Anti Tory whinging from the 50% who think of Brown, Balls, and Moribund as having left a first class UK economy.

Anti Europe rhetoric from the other 50%.


Thank christ for weekend sport.

Everyone post their political leanings andcall each other ***** and lets get on with the real debate.

Who is better, One Direction or Take That?
 



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