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The 't' in Brighton
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Every thread deserves a reference to Monty Python. Had a girlie giggle moment to this.
bomber130
bomber130
- Jun 10, 2011
- 1,908
Given there is an argument regarding this very unimportant use of the letter T, my question is "Are you a student". Personally I would tell my friend "Quite frankly I don't give a F".
Elvis
Well-known member
You joke, however years ago I was having a kickabout on merseyside. A lad who in asked one of the fellas who he was ' everton ' the reply. He later ( much to my approval, after a good bit of skill) asked me who I was ' Brighton ' He said nothing. Later in the game when I had the ball he screamed for a pass ' ay Brian' ...........Oh well!!
Lord Bracknell
On fire
It's not just the 't' that's gone missing.
Whatever happened to the 'thelmsto'?
Whatever happened to the 'thelmsto'?
brightn'ove
cringe
It's Bright-on darling :safeway:
Puppet Master
non sequitur
- Aug 14, 2012
- 4,055
Next up, Hove?
"'Ove" for me
"'Ove" for me
Drumstick
NORTHSTANDER
Always been Brighon to me. Had a similar convo with someone else years back after some googling I found a few loose links to a Sussex accent.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,346
oh, good anwser, thats how my Grandads would say it. its an interesting one as pointed out by trigger, the Brigthon and Sussex accents arent really the same, one always influenced by London the latter a touch of country drawl to it.
less of your fancy modern ways, should have stuck with the original Anglo Saxon.
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Cam orn Bri'n!
house your seagull
Train à Grande Vitesse
The dropping of the T is just an estuary thing.
I think I can tell a Brighton accent from the light drawl.
So, as TLO alludes to, it's the pronounciation of the vowels in the first syllable that marks us out.
Not as harsh as a Hampshire Broy-t'en, but certainly a lengthening or slurring of the 'i'.
I find that if you get somebody with a general south-east accent to say Brighton, they can't get those lazy vowels like a native.
I think I can tell a Brighton accent from the light drawl.
So, as TLO alludes to, it's the pronounciation of the vowels in the first syllable that marks us out.
Not as harsh as a Hampshire Broy-t'en, but certainly a lengthening or slurring of the 'i'.
I find that if you get somebody with a general south-east accent to say Brighton, they can't get those lazy vowels like a native.
SeagullSongs
And it's all gone quiet..
In some parts of 'Ampshire it's pronounced Broy'urn, with the apostrophe making the same sound as the missing 't' in Gatwick.
I personally pronounce it Bry-ten (the 'e' having the same vowel sound as in 'soften').
I personally pronounce it Bry-ten (the 'e' having the same vowel sound as in 'soften').
wunt be druv
Oh bugger..!
In Sussex dialect it would be Brytun, always pronounce the T.If it was a double T it would be Brydun.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Obviously, Brightlingsea, to us old traditionalists
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
Max Miller had the old school Brighton accent. 5'37'' into this video "Bri'tun" is how he says it with a slight "e' as in "egg" on the letter "i".
MAX MILLER 2 - 1940 78rpm - YouTube
Compare and contrast that accent with the Copper family from Rottingdean just a few miles away with proper Sussex accents. Undoubtedly John Copper calls it Bri-oy-tun with a very soft 't'. For anyone with an interest in local history this song (well...monologue) is an absolute gem.
The Imagined Village - Ouses - YouTube
I've been told I've got a Brighton accent. I certainly recognise more of Miller's accent than John Copper from my Worthing days.
MAX MILLER 2 - 1940 78rpm - YouTube
Compare and contrast that accent with the Copper family from Rottingdean just a few miles away with proper Sussex accents. Undoubtedly John Copper calls it Bri-oy-tun with a very soft 't'. For anyone with an interest in local history this song (well...monologue) is an absolute gem.
The Imagined Village - Ouses - YouTube
I've been told I've got a Brighton accent. I certainly recognise more of Miller's accent than John Copper from my Worthing days.
screamadelica
New member
- Jan 28, 2013
- 421
How do you pronounce the word stable did you attend your English lessons at school,how do you pronounce the word at
alofbrighton
Member
Ton at the end of lots of Sussex towns and villages is a corruption of the Saxon word 'tun' meaning farm. Hence Westmeston (West most farm - in the parish of Stanmer) and Plumpton (Plum farm). I am born and lived in Brighton for 35 years and sometimes drop the T but not always. Make of that what you will but I think the T should be heightened.
- Jul 7, 2003
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Brian Sewell?
'tun' is defo non you.... has to be pronounced ton... bri-ton
looney
Banned
- Jul 7, 2003
- 15,652
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
He probably pronounces his own name as 'Brighton Sewell'.