Bunch of pigs need to get off cms back!

storer · Apr 11, 2012

This is getting beyond a joke having to watch and read all these comments coming from people who know little or have been tanked up on beer whilst watching the games slate him....

please just go to the next game...watch his runs off the ball which gives our poor full backs an option everytime... his runs which take defenders away and leave vicente with space...

last night...
first 10 mins his movement and touch an go attitude was spot on...his high tempo from the front didnt allow reading to play from the back or full there full backs...
he should of had a penalty...again from good movement...
second half... would of scored against any other keeper in the league...
and yes late on when he did go quiet was when jara reyes and calderon couldnt pick a forward pass into the space!!!

SHAL WE HAVE A VOTE...
CMS
CHRIS WOOD(how many goals this year?)
MURRAY (how many goals this year?)
PAYNTER (where has he been since)
VOKES (how many goals this year and every other loan club at this level?)
BARNES (only scores pens...well nearly)

think about it before you regret it next year an were back to a lump upfront who doesnt jump run score pass or care

Randsta · Apr 11, 2012

storer said:
MURRAY (how many goals this year?)

5 goals in 36 - I looked this up earlier / CMS 9 from 39

storer · Apr 11, 2012

sooo more...and he doesnt take pens...

Mellotron · Apr 11, 2012

I would go for Murray out of all of those. Brings SO much more than goals to the game.

darters74 · Apr 11, 2012

storer said:
This is getting beyond a joke having to watch and read all these comments coming from people who know little or have been tanked up on beer whilst watching the games slate him....

please just go to the next game...watch his runs off the ball which gives our poor full backs an option everytime... his runs which take defenders away and leave vicente with space...

last night...
first 10 mins his movement and touch an go attitude was spot on...his high tempo from the front didnt allow reading to play from the back or full there full backs...
he should of had a penalty...again from good movement...
second half... would of scored against any other keeper in the league...
and yes late on when he did go quiet was when jara reyes and calderon couldnt pick a forward pass into the space!!!

SHAL WE HAVE A VOTE...
CMS
CHRIS WOOD(how many goals this year?)
MURRAY (how many goals this year?)
PAYNTER (where has he been since)
VOKES (how many goals this year and every other loan club at this level?)
BARNES (only scores pens...well nearly)

think about it before you regret it next year an were back to a lump upfront who doesnt jump run score pass or care

100% agree, i still think he'll score goals, he has been very unlucky in the scoring stakes if you ask me. I was certain that one 2nd half was going in. And yes, easily our best striker. And even when he is in bags of space, no-one seems to notice.

MattBackHome · Apr 11, 2012

I love CMS more than anything, but he had a complete Chernobyl last night.

StonehamPark · Apr 11, 2012

CMS does run his socks off and does contribute, I don't think anyone is doubting that. However he is our record signing and was bought to score 25+ a season, this hasn't worked after a lot of changing team & tactics.
I fully backed and supported CMS up until last night, I still like him and think he's a good player, but not what we thought we were spending £2.5 million on.

storer · Apr 11, 2012

murray offers more than goals...what and CMS doesnt?? prety sure he does...

correct he hasnt scored as many as he and us would of liked....ITS HIS FIRST FULL SEASON...i hope he bangs in 30 last year and i can post this thread again and laugh

watsongooal · Apr 11, 2012

storer said:
This is getting beyond a joke having to watch and read all these comments coming from people who know little or have been tanked up on beer whilst watching the games slate him....

please just go to the next game...watch his runs off the ball which gives our poor full backs an option everytime... his runs which take defenders away and leave vicente with space...

last night...
first 10 mins his movement and touch an go attitude was spot on...his high tempo from the front didnt allow reading to play from the back or full there full backs...
he should of had a penalty...again from good movement...
second half... would of scored against any other keeper in the league...
and yes late on when he did go quiet was when jara reyes and calderon couldnt pick a forward pass into the space!!!

SHAL WE HAVE A VOTE...
CMS
CHRIS WOOD(how many goals this year?)
MURRAY (how many goals this year?)
PAYNTER (where has he been since)
VOKES (how many goals this year and every other loan club at this level?)
BARNES (only scores pens...well nearly)

think about it before you regret it next year an were back to a lump upfront who doesnt jump run score pass or care

Sorry but he was pi$$ poor last night. I do like him and I like his attitude but as as been said countless times he doesnt fit into out system. If we are not going to change our system we change our striker. Its all very well talking about the runs he makes and the fact is is full of energy but he needs to be in the box on the end of crosses as he is the only striker we are playing.

By the way Chris Wood I believe has 10 goals this season

StonehamPark · Apr 11, 2012

storer said:
correct he hasnt scored as many as he and us would of liked....ITS HIS FIRST FULL SEASON.

How is that relevant? A 27-28 year old professional player shouldn't need over a season to adust and magically improve his finishing and positioning. As I said, he is a good player, but not up to Top 6 Championship level. I really do say this begrudgingly as I really do like him, I think he puts in more effort than anyone else, the only problem is that he can't score.

shaolinpunk · Apr 11, 2012

He needs a strike partner to bring the best out of him but that's not the system that Gus wants to play.

StonehamPark · Apr 11, 2012

shaolinpunk said:
He needs a strike partner to bring the best out of him but that's not the system that Gus wants to play.

Definitely, if we had a big lump up front holding the ball giving CMS through-balls, headers and knock-ons I know he would score freely. Heskey? ha..

Seagull Steve · Apr 11, 2012

Everybody was saying the same about Henry when he first joined Arsenal. He was useless for the first season, but look what happened after that. I am not suggesting the CMS is another Henry, but he could be in a similar situation where he hasn't settled yet. Its just a thought, that might be considered. :shrug:

watsongooal · Apr 11, 2012

Seagull Steve said:
Everybody was saying the same about Henry when he first joined Arsenal. He was useless for the first season, but look what happened after that. I am not suggesting the CMS is another Henry, but he could be in a similar situation where he hasn't settled yet. Its just a thought, that might be considered.

But Henry was coming to a foreign country to play in a different league. CMS has come from Peterborough

marshy68 · Apr 11, 2012

Seagull Steve said:
Everybody was saying the same about Henry when he first joined Arsenal. He was useless for the first season, but look what happened after that. I am not suggesting the CMS is another Henry, but he could be in a similar situation where he hasn't settled yet. Its just a thought, that might be considered.

So what are you suggesting then

JJB · Apr 11, 2012

He won't get you promoted. He's not a natural goalscorer. He's a poor mans Brett Ormerod, works hard and chips in with 10ish goals a year. Look at the other teams strikers, the teams that are above you.

Saints: Lambert, Sharp, Lee, Connolly, Barnard
Reading: Roberts, Hunt, ALF, Church
West Ham: Cole, Maynard, Baldock, Vaz Te, Carew
Brum: King, Zigic, Folan, Rooney
Blackpool: Phillips, Lua Lua, Dobbie, Taylor-Fletcher, Ormerod
Cardiff: Miller, Mason, Earnshaw, Gestede
Boro: Emnes, McDonald, Jutkiewicz, Ogbeche
Leicester: Nugent, Beckford, Gallagher, Vassell

All of these teams have 2/3 top quality forwards and decent back up. Compare this to your front line, you just don't have the quality in this position, no real goal scorer. CMS has done it in league 1, and that's it. He's 28 and if he was any good someone would have picked him up a couple of years earlier.

Brighton: CMS, Barnes, Vokes

Seagull Steve · Apr 11, 2012

watsongooal said:
But Henry was coming to a foreign country to play in a different league. CMS has come from Peterborough

Yes that's true, but the football differs greatly between League 1 and the Championship.

marshy68 said:
So what are you suggesting then

I wasn't really suggesting anything, I was just putting it out there. I don't know what the answer is. I just hate seeing these anti CMS, Barnes, Brezovan, Poyet threads. I agree its a message board made for peoples opinions. But these threads are too frequent, with some posters who just jump on the band wagon, just because we lost the previous match.

storer · Apr 11, 2012

and here we go again...negative comments...jesus christ haha

this whole 'he doesnt fit into our system' is rubbish...bet u werent sayin tht wen he scored a beaut against leeds...or palace (ignore the result)

u dont need a big target man to play like we do....u just need quality aka not reyes or barnes playing out wide

next season... next season

Simster · Apr 11, 2012

storer said:
and here we go again...negative comments...jesus christ haha

this whole 'he doesnt fit into our system' is rubbish...bet u werent sayin tht wen he scored a beaut against leeds...or palace (ignore the result)

u dont need a big target man to play like we do....u just need quality aka not reyes or barnes playing out wide

next season... next season

Why are you acting like a cry baby just because others disagree about CMS's value to the team? No-one is "on his back". I presume you bother going to games? If so, you would KNOW that he is very well appreciated by our support. However, this is a message board and is used for sounding off. And guess what, on here most people disagree with you. Deal with it, rather than acting like a stroppy toddler.

terryberry1 · Apr 11, 2012

storer said:
and here we go again...negative comments...jesus christ haha

this whole 'he doesnt fit into our system' is rubbish...bet u werent sayin tht wen he scored a beaut against leeds...or palace (ignore the result)

u dont need a big target man to play like we do....u just need quality aka not reyes or barnes playing out wide

next season... next season

If you dont like the negativity then don't read the CMS thread's. He is not good enough. That is all.

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