Football tops banned in Brighton pubs.

Southover Street Seagull · Jul 31, 2011

After the game last night I went to meet my brother and a mate at the Waggon and Horses, I saw them outside and chatted with them before heading inside for a drink. Just as I was about to get a drink a bouncer came up to me and said I wasn't allowed to drink in the pub or be on the premises because I was wearing my Brighton top. We all left very quickly after that and I was pretty pissed off. As I walked past the Mash Tun I asked the bouncers there if they had the same policy too, which they did, the bouncer saying that anyone wearing any clubs football shirt was not allowed to drink there. I can only assume the Waggon and Horses has the same policy too.

What gets me is that the Lord Nelson, Evening Star and Railway Bell all allow home fans wearing colours to drink in their establishments and these pubs are nearer the station and so could encounter more potential trouble than two who ban club tops from being worn!

So if you head in to town after a game in future and are wearing a Brighton top don't bother trying the Waggon and Horses or the Mash Tun.

DanielT · Jul 31, 2011

The Waggon were OK with it after Thursday night's Brighton 'til I Die

Springal · Jul 31, 2011

I would assume it was evening? A lot of those pubs are 'evening' venues so hardly surprising.

Colossal Squid · Jul 31, 2011

Noticed when I got off the train that Grand Central had a big sign outside forbidding those with football shirts on from entering but just up the road at the busy Battle of Trafalgar there was no such policy.

To be honest, if they don't want the business then it's fine by me. It isn't as if we have a shortage of pubs to choose from

Lord Bracknell · Jul 31, 2011

A lot of pubs are happy to welcome football supporters post-match, but tend to expect the ambience to have changed by the time 7.30 or 8.00pm come round.

beorhthelm · Jul 31, 2011

this is new to you? you will note that those you mention no worrying about football shirts also dont have doorman. often its the chain owed that mipose these rules or the security firm a takes a view on it and applies across all thier doors.

plenty of others to choose from and usually those with out such rules are the btter pubs.

Thunder Bolt · Jul 31, 2011

beorhthelm said:
this is new to you? you will note that those you mention no worrying about football shirts also dont have doorman. often its the chain owed that mipose these rules or the security firm a takes a view on it and applies across all thier doors.

It needs to be consistent, as Daniel pointed out, the Waggon was full of stripes on Thursday evening following Brighton til I die at the Theatre Royal.

Lush · Jul 31, 2011

Some pubs are probably mindful of their Saturday evening regulars, who probably don't come out to spend it in a pub with loud football fans, especially if they've reached that 'singing' stage of the evening that can come round quite quickly if you've been drinking since lunchtime.

Southover Street Seagull · Jul 31, 2011

beorhthelm said:
this is new to you? you will note that those you mention no worrying about football shirts also dont have doorman. often its the chain owed that mipose these rules or the security firm a takes a view on it and applies across all thier doors.

plenty of others to choose from and usually those with out such rules are the btter pubs.

Not new to me at all as I have experienced this at away games in the past. However I don't expect to be turned away from pubs in my home city when wearing the city's teams colours.

Southover Street Seagull · Jul 31, 2011

Lush said:
Some pubs are probably mindful of their Saturday evening regulars, who probably don't come out to spend it in a pub with loud football fans, especially if they've reached that 'singing' stage of the evening that can come round quite quickly if you've been drinking since lunchtime.

If that is the case then they should deal with each case individually and rely on some common sense as whether to ask customers to leave if they are being rowdy or not.
A blanket ban is not acceptable.

Southover Street Seagull · Jul 31, 2011

Colossal Squid said:
Noticed when I got off the train that Grand Central had a big sign outside forbidding those with football shirts on from entering but just up the road at the busy Battle of Trafalgar there was no such policy.

To be honest, if they don't want the business then it's fine by me. It isn't as if we have a shortage of pubs to choose from

Very true and I won't be visiting these two pubs if I'm wearing colours again. The thing is I very rarely wear club colours and only when we are at home, but I have never been asked to leave a pub in this area of Brighton for wearing a football top before.

spring hall convert · Jul 31, 2011

Southover Street Seagull said:
If that is the case then they should deal with each case individually and rely on some common sense as whether to ask customers to leave if they are being rowdy or not.
A blanket ban is not acceptable.

What do you mean 'not acceptable,' surely it's up to them what policy they adopt? Just indignantly take your business elsewhere and never darken their doors again whether in colours or not.

Washboard Didgets · Jul 31, 2011

If they have any sense they'll have big signs and banners saying "All Brighton fans welcome" next weekend.

20000 Brighton fans all in the mood to celebrate a momentous day. Win, lose or draw I think there will be a party atmosphere next week.

I was concerned about not being allowed in wearing colours. Might bring a t-shirt in case!

public school boy · Jul 31, 2011

The Landlord reserves the right to refuse entry. I half expected The Juggs in Kingston to have a no footballing shirt policy but the Landlord said he was quite happy as long as every one behaved. I did get some strange looks though.

Carrot Cruncher · Jul 31, 2011

One of the current problems is that it's the height of summer(apparently...) and Brighton is stag do central. Most of these head into town so won't go into the Battle, RB, etc. I presume that the concerned pubs think that a football shirt will attract every kind of Cockney, Scouse, Geordie, etc. dickhead going.

I for one have never had a problem wearing a Brighton shirt in Fitzherberts, W&H and pubs in that area. Mash Tun has been up it's own arse for years, so comes as no surprise. I would expect a mass policy change when the tourists go, towards autumn. That said, we've not had 2,500 away fans here for about 20 years.

element · Jul 31, 2011

I wonder if they would let in twelve blokes, split up into pairs and threes, in their early thirties, wearing Stone Island and Paul & Shark? More likely to get grief out of them I would have thought

Another Berkshire Seagull · Jul 31, 2011

Having so many fans turning up on a Saturday in colours will be new to pubs also...perhaps as they hear about other venues filling the coffers then policy of some places may change....and if not sod them. Plenty of places to go for a pint.

Kylies Stunt Arse · Jul 31, 2011

Southover Street Seagull said:
If that is the case then they should deal with each case individually and rely on some common sense as whether to ask customers to leave if they are being rowdy or not.
A blanket ban is not acceptable.

It's their pub their rules. Who are you to say what is and isn't acceptable? Saturday evening in the centre of town you have to expect some pubs to decide that they don't want a pub full of football shirts, especially pubs like the Waggon which is always full of people heading to the Dome or Theatre Royal. They will always look after the punters that are their bread and butter.

GoldWithFalmer · Jul 31, 2011

Southover Street Seagull said:
If that is the case then they should deal with each case individually and rely on some common sense as whether to ask customers to leave if they are being rowdy or not.
A blanket ban is not acceptable.

Don't wear a blanket then.

Herr Tubthumper · Jul 31, 2011

GoldWithFalmer said:
Don't wear a blanket then.

A bit harsh if you're Mexican?

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