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    It may be unwise to reopen the endless debate about which is the hardest Parkrun but someone has gone to the effort of ranking them by elevation. We have the two flattest (Hove Prom and Worthing) and 443rd out of 448 hilliest (Bevendean) all on our door steps

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      It may be unwise to reopen the endless debate about which is the hardest Parkrun but someone has gone to the effort of ranking them by elevation. We have the two flattest (Hove Prom and Worthing) and 443rd out of 448 hilliest (Bevendean) all on our door steps

      https://jegmar.com/fastest-races/parkrun/

      Was just about to post about this. Hove Park is hillier than Peacehaven, too...
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      Was just about to post about this. Hove Park is hillier than Peacehaven, too...
      Clair Park (Haywards Heath) is much hillier/harder than Hove Park......and 4.5 laps, so you get to do the long hill 4.5 times. For me it's 90s or so slower than either of the Hove runs (or Preston Park). It's narrow too so overtaking can be an issue.
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      Clair Park (Haywards Heath) is much hillier/harder than Hove Park......and 4.5 laps, so you get to do the long hill 4.5 times. For me it's 90s or so slower than either of the Hove runs (or Preston Park). It's narrow too so overtaking can be an issue.
      That's a great link. The one that surprises me is that our very own Bevendean is hillier than Queen Elizabeth Park in Hampshire which I recall was an absolute beast. What we now need is a combined measure of corners, bends, surfaces, cambers, people with dogs, people with buggies, proneness to strong winds, people who get in your way when you are lapping them and those courses with slow runners who line up too near the front at the start. In other words flatness is just one variable and that each course presents its own challenges which is why they are more fun than running around a track.
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      That's a great link. The one that surprises me is that our very own Bevendean is hillier than Queen Elizabeth Park in Hampshire which I recall was an absolute beast. What we now need is a combined measure of corners, bends, surfaces, cambers, people with dogs, people with buggies, proneness to strong winds, people who get in your way when you are lapping them and those courses with slow runners who line up too near the front at the start. In other words flatness is just one variable and that each course presents its own challenges which is why they are more fun than running around a track.
      Clair Park has all of those except the strong winds. It also has a resident 'Mr Grumpy' local who insists on walking his dog at 9.05 every Saturday morning

      Not done QE Park but know it well from other events. Struggling too see where there would be much in the way of flat bits other than through the car park !
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      Was just about to post about this. Hove Park is hillier than Peacehaven, too...
      Aaah but what about the grass / loose shingle path effect !
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      Interesting material on the relative difficulty of parkruns.

      Most of you probably know this, but the official RunBritain (http://www.runbritainrankings.com/) site adjusts for this relative hilliness etc in giving its handicap scores for 5k races including park runs. It also seems to adjust quite significantly for weather conditions (temperature, wind etc), because the order it ranks my Preston Park parkruns differs quite a lot from simple finish time order. So if you want to see how your handicap adjusts for course difficulty, it's definitely worth registering on Run Britain (it also updates automatically each week, every time you do a Park Run).

      PS: @Simgull good to meet you on yesterday's Sunday run.
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      That's a great link. The one that surprises me is that our very own Bevendean is hillier than Queen Elizabeth Park in Hampshire which I recall was an absolute beast. What we now need is a combined measure of corners, bends, surfaces, cambers, people with dogs, people with buggies, proneness to strong winds, people who get in your way when you are lapping them and those courses with slow runners who line up too near the front at the start. In other words flatness is just one variable and that each course presents its own challenges which is why they are more fun than running around a track.
      Knew I shouldn't have raised it!
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      Interesting material on the relative difficulty of parkruns.

      Most of you probably know this, but the official RunBritain (http://www.runbritainrankings.com/) site adjusts for this relative hilliness etc in giving its handicap scores for 5k races including park runs. It also seems to adjust quite significantly for weather conditions (temperature, wind etc), because the order it ranks my Preston Park parkruns differs quite a lot from simple finish time order. So if you want to see how your handicap adjusts for course difficulty, it's definitely worth registering on Run Britain (it also updates automatically each week, every time you do a Park Run).

      PS: @Simgull good to meet you on yesterday's Sunday run.
      NSC handicap table needed - sorry I should have thought of this earlier when we were discussing the league table. Basically does it all for us (although only includes events with a UKA permit)
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      That's a great link. The one that surprises me is that our very own Bevendean is hillier than Queen Elizabeth Park in Hampshire which I recall was an absolute beast. What we now need is a combined measure of corners, bends, surfaces, cambers, people with dogs, people with buggies, proneness to strong winds, people who get in your way when you are lapping them and those courses with slow runners who line up too near the front at the start. In other words flatness is just one variable and that each course presents its own challenges which is why they are more fun than running around a track.
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