Who is Brightons highest ever goal scorer?

I'm presuming it Sir Bobby Zamora If so why are we still singing about Peter Ward? Ward was great but I do feel surely Bobby has to be the true legend for what we acheived with him and how many games he won us. Could even be playing in South Africa this summer..........

Anyway if you know the highest goal scorer fill me in, thanx.

The Truth said:

I'm presuming it Sir Bobby Zamora If so why are we still singing about Peter Ward? Ward was great but I do feel surely Bobby has to be the true legend for what we acheived with him and how many games he won us. Could even be playing in South Africa this summer..........

Anyway if you know the highest goal scorer fill me in, thanx.

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There is one main difference between the two players. Ward played most of his games for us at a higher level than Zamora. It's debatable whether Zamora would have been so prolific at Championship level let alone Premier.

Neither Zamora or Ward are anywhere near Brighton's highest goalscorer...
the record holder has scored well over a hundred, which neither of the above got to.

Robert Codner?

I know it's not gospel but wikipedia says Zamora is our highest ever goal scorer

Zamora left Brighton and Hove Albion as the club's highest-ever goalscorer and remains to this day one of the most revered Brighton players of all time.

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Neither Ward nor Zamora makes the top 3 Albion scorers.

Top is Bert Stephens with 174 goals, Tommy Cook with 123 and Jock Davie with 120.

Kit Napier is next with 99 and then, it's Peter Ward with 95 (shared with Bobby Farrell)

Bobby ZAmora scored 76 making him 11th in the all-time list.

Top scorer in terms of goals per game is Arthur Attwood who averaged 0.72 goals per game.

dingobruce said:

I know it's not gospel but wikipedia says Zamora is our highest ever goal scorer

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Wiki is obviously sponsored by Sky - there was no football before 1992.

Herr Tubthumper said:

Robert Codner?

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Is the right answer....but only because that was what I was going to post.

Can anyone remember the precise details of what were surely allegations, rather than facts?

Gwylan said:

Neither Ward nor Zamora makes the top 3 Albion scorers.

Top is Bert Stephens with 174 goals, Tommy Cook with 123 and Jock Davie with 120.

Kit Napier is next with 99 and then, it's Peter Ward with 95 (shared with Bobby Farrell)

Bobby ZAmora scored 76 making him 11th in the all-time list.

Top scorer in terms of goals per game is Arthur Attwood who averaged 0.72 goals per game.

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wheres that info from?

I was looking at this, and there arent nealry as many goals as what you have said
http://www.neilbrown.newcastlefans.com/brighton/brighton.htm

The Truth said:

I'm presuming it Sir Bobby Zamora If so why are we still singing about Peter Ward? Ward was great but I do feel surely Bobby has to be the true legend for what we acheived with him and how many games he won us. Could even be playing in South Africa this summer..........

Anyway if you know the highest goal scorer fill me in, thanx.

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I must assume you never saw Wardy play!!

Isn't it Tug Wilson or something like that?

Giraffe said:

Isn't it Tug Wilson or something like that?

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I'm sure Tug Wilson was appearences.

Zamora scored 83 goals in 136 appearances (134 starts).

99-2000 - 6 league goals
2000-01 - 28 league goals, 2 FA Cup, 1 FLT
2001-02 - 28 league goals, 2 FA Cup, 2 League Cup
2002-03 - 14 league goals

Total - 76 league goals, 4 FA Cup, 2 League Cup, 1 FLT

14 yellow cards, 2 red cards

Tommy Cook born in Sussex, I believe he played for Brighton and England at Football also managed us, played cricket for Sussex, fought in both wars being very injured in the second.

Then died young, scored a 123 goals as well, no one is going to beat that. I imgaine we do not sing about him as none of us ever saw him play!

Wardy was more exciting than Bobby Z.

Bobby Smith I averaged 0.61 goals per game in Division 4, but only in 31 games. In five games Brain Dear and Paul Dickov got lots of goals (ratio).

Gwylan said:

Neither Ward nor Zamora makes the top 3 Albion scorers.

Top is Bert Stephens with 174 goals, Tommy Cook with 123 and Jock Davie with 120.

Kit Napier is next with 99 and then, it's Peter Ward with 95 (shared with Bobby Farrell)

Bobby ZAmora scored 76 making him 11th in the all-time list.

Top scorer in terms of goals per game is Arthur Attwood who averaged 0.72 goals per game.

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78 of Bert Stephens goals were in the mickey mouse war league so not fair to compare with Tommy Cook.

Top 22 - all 50 or more. League/ FA Cup/ L Cup/Micky Mouse Cups/ Total

T Cook 114 9 123
K Napier 84 9 6 99
P Ward 81 3 11 95
B Stephens 86 8 94
A Mundy 87 3 90
B Zamora 76 4 2 1 83
B Farrell 66 17 83
D Kirkwood 74 8 82
J Hopkins 72 3 75
A Attwood 55 19 74
E Wilson 67 4 71
D Foreman 63 6 69
P Harburn 61 4 65
D Gordon 62 2 64
S Jennings 61 2 63
K Nogan 49 7 4 60
T Connor 51 4 4 59
G Nelson 47 6 6 59
P Smith 40 17 57
J Davie 39 18 57
N Forster 39 6 1 4 50

bhaexpress said:

There is one main difference between the two players. Ward played most of his games for us at a higher level than Zamora. It's debatable whether Zamora would have been so prolific at Championship level let alone Premier.

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I think your memory is playing tricks on you. Ward only managed 24 goals in two seasons in division 2 and in these two seasons we were either promoted or nearly promoted. He was only ever prolific in division 3. Zamora managed about 14 in one injury hit relegation season in the Championship.

Horton's halftime iceberg said:

Tommy Cook born in Sussex, I believe he played for Brighton and England at Football also managed us, played cricket for Sussex, fought in both wars being very injured in the second.

Then died young, scored a 123 goals as well, no one is going to beat that. I imgaine we do not sing about him as none of us ever saw him play!

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He never recovered from the war - physically injured and mentally scarred. He was seperated from his wife and he committed suicide at the tender age of 49.

Edit: "In this letter Tommy stated that he hoped "to get home in about three years time, that is, of course, if war does not break out before then." But war did break out and Tommy Cook joined the South African Air Force, in which he served as a corporal. In 1943 there was a tragic accident at an Air School in which he saw several of his friends burned to death and he, himself, was badly injured and in hospital for six months."

1234andcounting said:

Is the right answer....but only because that was what I was going to post.

Can anyone remember the precise details of what were surely allegations, rather than facts?

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Caught with a stash in the glove compartment of his car whilst being done for speeding.

Spent a sojourn at Her Majesty's pleasure in Lewes

Robert Andrew George Codner (born 23 January 1965) is a retired English footballer.

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1.1 Playing career
1.2 Non-playing career
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[edit] Playing career
He played as a midfielder and forward for Leicester City, Dagenham, Barnet, Brighton & Hove Albion, Reading, Peterborough United, Southend United, Stevenage Borough,[1] Aylesbury United, Farnborough Town, Cardiff City, Kettering Town, Dover Athletic, Chesham United, Chertsey Town and Banstead Athletic.[2][3][4][5][6] He made over 300 appearances in The Football League scoring 40 goals.[4] Codner also represented England semi-professional football team.[7]

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He has since gone on to become a football agent.[8]

Seagulls had their hellraisers like the rest
From the archive, first published Saturday 5th Jan 2002.

The intense media concentration lately on anti-social on and off-the-field activities by professional footballers prompts me to recall when the spotlight was directed on the Albion.

Some instances of stepping out of line were little more than excesses of youthful exuberance. Nobody got hurt.

Other occasions were fuelled by drunkenness when complaints came from members of the public who had the misfortune to witness players breaking free from disciplinary restraints.

Footballers are no exception. It has happened to many of us. Any footballer worthy of the name must possess a spirit of adventure but a line has to be drawn somewhere and, in this respect, Albion's record over the time I covered the club, was pretty good.

It is not as if there is a rogue's gallery of Albion players having dragged the good name of the club into the mud although it has to be said that so far as brushes with the law are concerned the principal offender was a director who had a reputation for high-living before being invited to join the board.

Greg Stanley was, and still is for all I know, the life and soul of the party.

A millionaire, many times over, he became a director in 1985 with lots of lovely money behind him that he soon splashed about. Players attended parties at The Pebble Beach, the night spot he owned in Angmering and it was no secret that Greg liked a drink.

With four matches remaining at the end of the 1987-88 season Albion were going for promotion and lay fourth on the eve of the away game with Doncaster. Winning 2-0 lifted Albion up one place and two wins and a draw took them up with Third Division champions Sunderland.

All the week of the Doncaster match Stanley, then a director of the Fads DIY chain, had been in Yorkshire visiting his shops. The night before the match and accompanied by John Campbell, another director, Stanley put his boot through the window of a shop opposite the team hotel.

Maybe he intended to kick something else and his aim was off. But police were called and he appeared before magistrates. Stanley denied the offence but was convicted and fined £250 and ordered to pay £351 compensation to the shop, Martin Raymonds, and £146 costs.

The incident was not only embarrassing for Stanley; it placed Albion chairman Dudley Sizen on the spot. It was club policy to impose a lifetime ban on football hooligans found guilty of public order offences. Already there were 81 names on the list since the clampdown had been imposed the previous season. Would the club now condemn and ban the man who had given Albion an £800,000 interest-free loan the previous year?

Here was Stanley in the Goldstone dock with Sizen cast in the unwanted role of judge. And, all credit to Dudley, he came up trumps. With all the adroitness of a top advocate he ruled: "This is a personal matter for Mr Stanley. What has this got to do with football hooliganism? It is not a matter for the club."

By this time the next season was underway with Albion preening themselves in Second Division feathers. Greg Stanley played his part as benefactor by sponsoring the opening game against Bradford City, an arrangement, he claimed, that had been planned before his court appearance.

An Evening Argus leading article made the point that had the Doncaster window smasher been a 19 year-old with pink hair, jeans with the knees torn and a stud in his ear, would the club have acted differently. The opinion was that banning Stanley would have been ridiculous. He might have been foolish, but hardly qualified as a football rowdy.

A year later, however, there were complaints by residents in Arundel about the behaviour of Stanley who lived in the vicinity. They were awakened at 4am by the sound of smashing windows to the accompaniment of football songs.

Police were informed but took no action and later Stanley's solicitor said of his client: "He is a flamboyant character generous by deed and nature. His association with Brighton has resulted in an exaggeratedly high profile in his business and personal life. This has led to numerous allegations which are either untrue or wildly exaggerated and deeply hurtful."

And that was the end of the matter. Greg Stanley was never slow to reach for his wallet in Albion's interest but he was on the board when the folly of selling the Goldstone went through without another ground already secured.

The majority of discreditable incidents down to players are, more often than not, hushed-up or dealt with as internal matters to avoid publicity and harming the image of football. But once in the public domain clubs have no course but to come clean and throw the damage limitation switch.

There was such a closing of ranks when Albion first played in Division One and the party went to Manchester for an appointment at Maine Road.

Alan Mullery, the manager, did not include new signing Steve Foster or goalkeeper Graham Moseley. So they went along for the ride but were bound by club rules. These were broken when they got back late on the Friday night and Mullery put them on the first train home.

All credit to Foster at the time. He put his hands up, saying: "It got me thinking it was time I put my past behind me or I'd never make it."

The player who deservedly became one of the best defenders in Albion's history and went on to play for England, pleaded with Mullery not to suspend him. "I asked him to stick me in the side and I would show him what I could do."

After three defeats on the spin there wasn't much Mullers could do except put Foster on trust and he didn't miss a match for the next two seasons.

When Foster was reported following an incident at the Coral Squash Club in the summer of 1981, the Albion manager was then Mick Bailey and he took disciplinary action.

But what it was remains a secret. "It is a private matter and has been dealt with as such as far as we are concerned,"said Bailey.

The club was equally tight-lipped. The manager said Foster's membership had not been terminated but he was being asked to stay away. The door was shut still further when Nigel Williams, Albion's assistant secretary, said: "We don't want to talk about it and we have told Steve not to say anything either. We won't even comment on whether or not an incident took place."

Players today are, by and large, more professional than during the 1960s when Albion had a well-knit hard drinking school who were fit enough to have a skinfull but still get through training without turning a hair the next morning. However at least a couple sailed too close to the wind at Hartlepool in October 1963.

Manager Archie Macaulay and trainer Cyril Hodges retired for the night after checking all the players back into the hotel. But although it was lights out, Bill Cassidy and Keith Webber took in an extra draught of fresh air on the balcony.

And when a couple of women passed by in the street below their attention was drawn to a pair of flashers. Police were called and Archie awakened by an unsmiling sergeant and constable waiting to speak to the players. They, of course, pretended to be asleep and as the street lighting wasn't up to much, no positive identification was possible.

The incident was entered into the book as an uncoroborated complaint and at breakfast Archie was heard say to Hodges..."I'm certain it was Big Bill and Webber. They didn't fool me with all that snoring."

No harm done...nor were any protests heard when Albion returned from that First Division promotion clincher at Newcastle. As the charter train carrying the players headed south the champagne-fuelled celebrations turned into a love-in. The engaged signs on the toilet doors stayed in place continuously.

Individually, Albion have had some bad boys, but most were easily led. Micky Thomas wasn't so much of a hell-raiser as a young man whose domestic life created pressures that impinged on his job. He let Mike Bailey down three times by failing to appear for matches and proved to be a complete waste of a £350,000 fee to Everton who also had had problems with a player who seldom lived up to the gifts displayed as a teenager at Wrexham.

We were not to know it but the most serious of Thomas' problems were ahead of him when he left Brighton after one goal in 23 starts for a £200,000 move to Stoke so Albion were not the only mugs. In 1993, Thomas was jailed for passing counterfeit money but he was always a cheery soul and when he came out he joined the after-dinner circuit. His best quip remains: "I'm surprised I haven't been offered a job in football, especially with all the money I could make."

There was no questioning Robert Codner's talent. Manager Barry Lloyd was certain he had made a good signing and Codner at times looked the complete midfielder. Codner's problems seemed to be in his head and he was not popular with most of his colleagues at the Goldstone.

They didn't go much on a player who sometimes didn't turn up. In December, 1993 Codner spent three weeks in Lewes Prison for driving offences. He tried to make a comeback under Liam Brady but it didn't work out and Albion let him go.
In the light of the trials of the Leeds players all the above seems pretty trivial stuff.

Speeding offences are run-of-the-mill, except, of course, drink driving, and I remain unconvinced that there is a serious yob culture among professional footballers.

The vast majority are law-abiding young men trained to a high state of fitness and perfectly entitled to have a night out now and again. They don't all earn five-figure sums each week or indulge in violent behaviour.

The trouble is, with us Brits, give a dog a bad name and it sticks.

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