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But we have seen that many times the ref will not call it deliberate and it would be a yellow card. The ball came off his chest first I do not think it was deliberate. Funny this is such a talking point today as I do not think it made any difference, even if he was sent off (which he would not...

Why have you started this thread again? Very strange indeed especially when the defender often will not be red carded within the new laws

To start with I didnt think it is an automatic red now - as there would be penalty under the double jeopardy rule is it not only a yellow? He certainly got hit from Ryan and the ref had the yellow card in his hand almost immediately so I do no think that faking it would help in any way, I...