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Oddly enough, there were no motorcyclists weaving in and out of the traffic on the way home this evening ?

If you can get moving ease off the revs and just go up on the tickover in 1st gear if you can, although slow, if the hill is not too steep it will work.

Whew ! and the state of your undercrackers just after you came to a halt ?

If they were any good the French would have introduced that legislation by now.

Touch wood, I have never come a cropper in the car on ice but... Came very close a couple of years ago when I just slid down a camber towards a parked car. Stopped a foot away but the feeling of helplessness you get when you realise you have no control is very scary.