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I said that in my original post. I think it is widely agreed he is probably our '4th Choice CM'. My point is he is still a very solid player and far better than 4th choice CM's we've had in the past like JFC for example. Plus I think your analysis that he hasn't put in a convincing performance...

He also coincidently played the full matches against two top 6 sides which we won, he was probably a passenger in both games as we always beat Sheffield Wednesday away.... oh.

I'm well aware, I'm not claiming he is a football genius or whenever he is involved we win... My point is he has been involved in lots of our away wins this season, not too shabby for a 4th choice CM.

I know he is (rightly in my opinion) criticized for giving the ball away too easily at times and trying to be over intricate but I make that 3 of our 5 away wins in the league with him in the starting line up and believe he came off the bench in the other 2. Not bad for someone who we class as...