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The bowling is so one dimensional. Ali's no Swann when he comes back, I'm still not totally convinced on his bowling, the remainder of the bowling is so one dimensional. Unless Anderson or Broad get hot or Stokes bowls fast we're not going to get good teams out. Hindsight is easy but we should...

Botham's bowling average was in the low 20's in his pomp. People forget that he was chucking pies for the last 5 years of his test career. A great slip fielder as well. He's in any conversation about best all rounders ever. Anderson's record would have been far better but for the years the ECB...

Ian Botham. I'd have Botham at about 60% of his best. Anderson is a good bowler but Botham's one of the best cricketers this country has ever produced.

Another pitiful shot.

I'm tempted to go large on New Zealand winning that test series. Whatever price English bookies offer is going to be too long, I'd have them as marginal favourites, they were unlucky over here last time and they've got much better since then. I'd like a bet on England not winning a Test all...

In fairness to England, Taylor has bowled brilliantly here - shades of when he turned us over for 50 something a few years ago.

Tredwell's dropped Blackwood off Stokes - 180/4

And we're back, Anderson and Broad to start.

West Indies 155/4 - attritional stuff. Would have been very different if Cook's catch off Stokes wasn't a no ball. Incidentally Boycott has just absolutely slaughtered Stuart Broad for backing away on TMS. He said that he needed to sort it out or he should be dropped. Suggested that it was...

With the added bonus of being beaten first by New Zealand. We're away in South Africa next winter n'all.

Boycott's getting stuck into the selection on TMS already.

****ing hell - one edge from Cook that didn't carry there. We're making these two look like Ambrose and Walsh at the moment.

Trott gone - 3rd ball.

Trott and Cook is a run out waiting to happen. I hope the Trott thing works out but as has already been said there's reservations. Tredwell is a pityful selection, it tells you everything you need to know about the conservatism at the heart of English cricket.