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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    I couldn't quickly find the study specifically about youth unemployment (but I will), but this one uses similar methodology, at local level, to test for any relationship between immigration into an area and (total) unemployment into that area (there isn't one). It's a bit technical, but as far...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    Your argument here seems to be a variant of what is well-known in economics as the "Lump of Labour Fallacy". It's called a fallacy for a reason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    I agree with some of what you say and it's certainly the case (as Peter Wilby's article about the Atlee era in your link perhaps unwittingly make clear) that xenophobia, fear of people who are "different" and hostility to immigrants, have never been the sole prerogative of the right. In my view...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    I know that a lot of people think that there has been this massive impact of migration on youth unemployment, but apart from anecdotal material, its hard to find any hard evidence for it. As far as I'm aware, not one credible economic analysis suggests migration from the EU has had a negative...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    I'm well aware of that, thanks. Some of the comments on here have, however, been bemoaning the fact that we are not, apparently consulted about changes to migration regulations. I was responding to those comments, and not the whole debate in general (I have also made some comments about other...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    Could you explain how the UCL study (and I've read the full version) is biased and partisan? It doesn't seem so to me (and I've read the full report), and knowing some of the staff in the migration research centre at UCL, I'm 100% sure that if they'd found the opposite findings (i.e. greater...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    Precisely this. It seems that many people on here do not understand the basic principles of representative democracy, which is a fundamentally British approach to democracy, and one that is worth keeping in my view. The only possible case, within such a system, for a referendum it seems to me is...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    I never said it was the same; indeed I said there are "lots of differences" (one being that EU member states have much greater powers in lots of important areas than do US states). The substantive point I was making was about the feasibility of a viable economic system with free movement of...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    Neither can you in London. But you can rock up in London from Paris, in much the same way that you can rock up in New York from Little Rock, Arkansas The US, a federal system ("United States"), has some economic and political similarities with the EU -- similar sized population, trading block...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    While he's doing that, here's some reputable recent evidence from economists at UCL backing up the opposite point. http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1113/051113-migration-report I understand also that the Home Office commissioned some similar work from their own internal economists on...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    If I recall correctly, the evidence on recent migration (post-EU enlargement) suggests slightly the opposite. The immigrants are significantly less likely than native Brits to claim benefits (because most of them come for the sole or primary purpose of work or study) or to use health and social...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    Quite. That was the point I was trying to make. For every random personal anecdote on one side of the debate, you can find another on the other side. Neither prove anything at all about whether immigration is a 'good thing'
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    I have no hard evidence one way or the other on how THICK the people who want to discuss this might be. However a cursory glance through this and similar threads on NSC does suggest that some of those who get the most heated about all these foreigners coming in do struggle a bit to put together...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    I had to accompany someone to A&E over the new year, and noticed that (although I did not check their passports, so could not be certain), the vast majority of the patients appeared to be white, British and male. Many were off their faces, and quite a few were belligerent and aggressive to the...
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    And if he knew that the correct expression was "shoo-in" not "shoe in", he'd be MD of the company in a couple of years. I expect that's in lesson 1, English for immigrants.
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    Thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians spotted at the borders

    Britain is full. Literally. Britain is literally full, by which I mean not actually full but full to the point where we cannot and must not let any more immigrants in. How do I know that Britain is full? Anecdotal evidence. I’ve seen the occasional homeless person - usually white - and the only...
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