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Ha, you presume correctly :facepalm:

Thing is, your major cost in the slabs so if it really isn't going well then you put your slabs to one side, abandon ship and get a pro in. You'll still have saved money if you've dug out and laid the sub base yourself.... To add - I found it a massive amount of time and effort to get the base...

I did say comparatively speaking! TBH, when I left Shoreham 3 years ago, putting a shelf up was a challenge, if I can do this stuff, anyone can, trust me...

I kind of agree - It's particularly sad to see all the front gardens that have disappeared for the ridiculous number of cars households have....

As mentioned elsewhere, I'm building a patio right now, it's 49m sq and has cost about £2.1k in materials, quote from a builder to do it was £4.7k. It's taken me about 2 weeks thus far and while I am a complete amateur, it is time consuming, you've got to dig down to the earth's crust for...