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I....I.... Oh forget it :lolol:

What's my argument? I don't even have an argument.

So, basically, you never found the quote. Well done.

Please highlight a single post on this thread where I have claimed I'm SURE they have agreed THE FEE(ie how much we will receive). I would absolutely love to know where I made that difinitive statement. Sure you wern't referring to where I said this. "The values won't be far apart at all in...

We learnt from B.W that you should NEVER let the other person know your MINIMUM selling price when in a negotiation. If you can't take that life-lesson away from this then I truly pity you.

Andre Wisdom poos fruit?

I agree with that random and completely unrelated, yet profound statement. That's almost as clinical statement as "we could do better than Chris Baird because he is not the best defender in the world" You are full of WISDOM at the moment.

Yes. In terms of they've already agreed the deal in principle, ie no more basic fee negotiations are going on. Just the how they will pay and the clauses in place. Not the how much of a basic fee is paid. But again, it's much more EXCITING when you write it in the B.W way. But then, I'm...

And also, can you stop telling me what I'm suggesting in my posts. I'm not suggesting anything close to what you are suggesting I'm suggesting. I said that it is likely the clubs have the basis of the deal and overall cost pretty much agreed and that is more down to the structure of the deal...

Seems odd that you wrote this then "think you would be a very poor negotiator. IF you are selling, you NEVER give away your min price."

When did I say you tell them your MINIMUM price. Please highlight that part to me.

I realise it's your opinion, but that's just not how transfers work. You have agents for us and agents for them and Liams agent. They will all know the figures being discussed. If they didn't then it would be the single worst form of negotiations ever. How are you meant to negotatiate if no one...

The values won't be far apart at all in my view. Deals don't go on like this when the clubs are miles apart. The buying team has a list of player, makes a sensible offer, if it's clear the difference in valuation is massive then they move down the list to the next target. The Bridcutt transfer...

Sunderland would be justified to offer Conner Wickham for both of them, with no fee involved and not be laughed at. I would be ASTOUNDED if they were offering this cash+Wickham deal.

And we miss out on a transfer fee for him? What would be the point of that? And secondly, Cattermole was 20 and had a brilliant season in the premier league. Of course he was worth far more than 24 year old Liam Bridcutt who has not played in the prem.

When you break it down, that isn't a bad deal at all. However, that is only if you actually value Liam at what he is worth and not what NSC thinks he's worth. We have a defensive midfielder who is 24 (i think), has never played in the top division, doesn't score goals and isn't physically...