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would hardly be the first time that's happened...

but all that stuff could happen anyway? there are lots of people who would commit those crimes already here. in fact a lot of them are probably citizens. complete false dichotomy that allowing migrants in meaning comprising the safety of certain groups, you wouldn't say 'well we should keep all...

mobile phones are allegedly sometimes confiscated from migrants upon arrival. but the BBC have now got photos of children sleeping on the floor of a 'processing centre'

unaccompanied children being taken to detention centres and allegedly pressed by officials to lie about their age, being told they will be released if they say they're over 18...

yes it is very interesting. did a politics degree and it totally changed my view on the type of people that were actually coming to the UK. It's very easy to get caught up in the media narrative. And whilst not perfect sweden's seems a lot better than ours. because the government have shut off...

hahaha sorry, phone decided to do its own thing. should be there now.

yep. you get here, you're taken to a centre until your application is dealt with many months later. nasty, isn't it? not all asylum seekers are in detention, but if you're application is rejected you'll also be taken to the same centres

I appreciate where you are coming from, but the reality of our broken asylum system means that the processing centres effectively function as detention centres. some of these people will be waiting months and months to have their claims processed, living in horrific conditions with no means of...

and that's what the asylum process is there to arbitrate on. doesn't make it acceptable to keep them in slum conditions while that process is ongoing

sorry got to disagree on that last point. they're held there indefinitely while their application is crushed under the wheels of bureaucracy. they aren't allowed to integrate into the local community, and they're kept behind fences. they're detainees and they're in a detention centre

they have neither stood trial nor been convicted of any offence. and whether or not they are here illegally, I think it's wrong to make people suffer in squalid conditions just for wanting a better life. hardly the crime of the century, is it?

I can see why it would end up there, but to be honest i don't really see why the idea of not keeping human beings in crowded and unsanitary hellholes is that objectionable, whatever your opinions on immigration as a whole.

aware there are already other threads, and I'm aware this one may join them in the bear pit, about the topic of immigration, but since they seem to be discussing the issue as a whole it seems pertinent to point out that in the fifth richest county in the world we are keeping men, women and...