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Last year for starters, weve only been successfull once at this level but been near the top or top befor christmas about 8 times.

Quite right Harks. A week or so ago and 11 points clear people were claiming it was a done deal when it obviously wasn't, neither is the gloom and doom brigade talking sense. What worries me is that we have traditionally been fade and die merchants at this level, thats not to say it will happen...