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Fair enough, can't say I can remember to much of the nitty gritty, just the feeling that I wasn't convinced.

I believe he was staying at the hotel, from memory. I'm not arguing the whole case again, my views on it haven't changed, none of the people involved come out of it in a good light, but, I did think at the time, I couldn't convict him beyond reasonable doubt, on the evidence presented in court...

I know all that, I was referring to the original trial, I read the statements and a lot of the trial transcripts, and, I couldn't have convicted him 'beyond reasonable doubt'

But then you have to believe the girl, and I was never convinced she was telling the truth.

Still think what I thought at the time, I'm not sure there is no reasonable doubt.

These were never presented in court as evidence, if they had been, it may have been a different outcome

And the cctv at the hotel that shows him running out after the cab,and the girl following, and then thm both coming back, her realising she has left a pizza on the pavement, and bending down to pick it up, and then walking back into the lobby.

She realised she had lost her bag when she got back to the hotel as Mcdonald try to stop the cab as it drove off to retrieve it, she thought it was in the cab

As an aside, when I was in a Freemantle on the Ark Royal an Aussie girl took on 27 sailors, one after another, and , no I wasn't one of the 27

Not if the young women in question was compliant in the act, and only as drunk as the evidence of her alcohol intake would suggest, how she, as an experienced drinker, had complete alcoholic amnesia after only the equivalent of five pints, I struggle to understand. The term beyond reasonable...

Excactly

In the eyes of the law, they, like Evans were guilty, until cleared by the court of appeal. When and if Evans is cleared on apeal, he will then be innocent.

I agree that this would be an improvement, but it would mean the F.A. making a moral stand, and as we know better than most they don't do that. They would probably make some mealy mouthed statement about restriction of trade, payed his debt to society,blah blah blah. The P.F.A. wouldn't...

I don't think she went to the Police until after her shift at work, about 9.00 pm, so she wouldn't have alcohol still in her blood

I do for the most part agree, however, a very small percentage of young men have the talent to become professional footballers, and as a consequence they are in high demand, and Ched Evans is a good player, the same as Hughes, Barton, and McCormack. If there was a surfeit of young men who had...

As I said, nobody comes out of it with any credit.. I watched the cctv of the victim going into the hotel, she doesn't look that drunk, it may be deceptive though, the fact she made tweets to friends about what she would do with the compo, and then deleted them, and denied ever sending them,even...

Fair enough, but you don't get a five stretch for cheating on a girlfriend. The young lady(?)who was apparently raped, sounds like definate Jeremy Kyle fodder, urinating in the street, too drunk to remember what happened, drug traces in her system, lying in court, and agreeing to sleep with a...

Having read the Court transcript, the thing that struck me was every time Evans was mentioned, Iit was "the Footballer Ched Evans" from the Prosecution brief. It did make me wonder if had he been a plumber it would even have got to Court

Yeah, I felt the same over the Birmingham six the Guildford four, Stefan Kishkov, and many, many others

Perhaps, because of the evidence?