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I thought UKIP did pretty well yesterday?

How do you know? Maybe twice as many would have voted UKIP as a protest vote, saw that and switched their vote

Sensible debate? At the moment 20-odd people have been handed a folded piece of paper and UKIP supporters are claiming vote-rigging. In a restuarant the other day I was handed a menu. I walked out as the front page only had starters on it, and I fancied a main meal and a dessert.

Maybe, but it's not really a full-time job is it? It is a massive piece of paper though, i'm sure they used to be folded when they were handed to you, and so far it's happened couple of dozen times. I'll be honest I'm not sure i'd want people who don't understand how paper works voting. I can...

Where is the evidence that they're not?

So UKIP are complaining about the Alphabet? Is there anything foreign they like? Apart from the leader's wife

I like that. It also tells you more about UKIP's policy than any of their politicians or supporters do

How is it typical Labour if only one (very small) council did it?

On your first point. It doesn't make sense. Lots of papers are anti-EU and still call UKIP racist, maybe it's not the anti-EU thing that makes people think they're racist but the other stuff. On the second how do you know voting for that many people to represent us all is stupid if you don't...

We established yesterday you don't know anything about the European elections, why should anyone listen to your opinion on them?