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it's not my truth. ok, - i'll try a super softly tiptoe approach next time - on the next applicable thread in the near future - promise - and i'll meet you there and we'll see how that goes. i feel the alienation is not from the approach, but because some threads are so completely "ring...

the truth that you haven't read the thread, or the truth that objectively facts gets people's back up due to it interfering with their belief systems?

you've obviously not read the thread, so i will repeat..........that 20k civilians have been murdered by british military and their "allies" is objective "out there" truth...not "my" truth......but keep pointing at me hey :0)........if it makes you happy.

I don't see the relevance of happyness or sadness on this page.....might as well bring up salt and pepper. It is you who has missed the points......hence not replying and just claiming "nonsense" to a whole grouping of different posts. A wise man once said.... "....Seeking social acceptance...

i never 'bounced' the thread. Social norms are different for different people, and different in different parts of the world. Are you saying supporters of BHA need to have certain societal points of view? Have you checked that stance out with Bloom, Barber, or Garcia? If you only see two...

In the context of the thread, this post looks like you are supporting the murder of 20k islamist civilians due to some islamic kids using british schools. If a school has a majority of Islamic kids, it's only normal for it to embody more islamic teachings and rules. e.g English schools around...

i am not aiming to convince anyone - objective truth stands where it stands no matter who believes it, ignores it, attacks it, gets alienated by it....or attacks the messenger. if peoples reaction is anger then that's an issue in themselves - reactions to a sentence are subjective to each...

yeah, lets ocus on 5 invaders who had an accident over 20,000 civilians who were murdered.......because.......(and this is the original issue in this thread).....they were just following orders and doing their jobs.

You stated in this thread "good ridance to any enemy if they die," and after that you now restate you want this thread to be about condolence? hmmm. I'm sorry for anyone who feels the pain of loss, we all know people who have gone, but soldiers choose to join and sign up - live by the sword...

the only people reeled are the ones who support blindly a group of soldiers who invaded a country and have a hand in 20,000 civilian murders....... "simply because they were following orders and doing their job." [the comment that caused this being questioned]. ....who holds the rod? the...

the nationalism, hypocrisy, and disdain for human life in this thread is unbelievable in this day and age.....and some of the very same people are over in the march for england thread stating they are left wing. True evidence of real delusion.

beorhthelm Giving respect to a human because they are "just following orders / doing their job" i find highly provocative and sensitive. Provocation and sensitivity are subjective. The numbers stated however, and the historic example for reference, are both objective, and will remain so even...

20,000 civilians muredered......and 5 soldiers die in an accident. note: it is these soldiers and their comrades that have killed the 20,000 civilians. perspective please people. ....or insults and threats as it's easier to block off objective truth. helipilot - it is the lack of...

it's probably because of the lack of reason (for their sad deaths), and the lack of context, and perspective.....and when any of these are questioned the insults and nationalism starts and whips up. For instance, 20,000 Afgan civilians have died since "allied" forces have been there.....and...

is this man seriously an administrator?

ah, i see what you did there, you created an insult so you don't have to respond......sheesh, this was going on in page 1....... to call someone you have never met, and have no idea what they do with their time - "a nut job" - for having raised an example a is one of the best examples of...

geodavies it's objective truth, and a great but sad example of how humans should not respect people for just following orders or doing their jobs. Maybe you are confused, and think it was voluntary work? Insults to me for raising issues consigned to history are a strange reaction.

And nor can anyone else i've asked on this thread.......why? Because sadly and shamefully, it's objective truth....not my truth, but the out there "it happened" truth. It's not my fault both groups mentioned were both doing their jobs and following orders.....blame me for it - i don't care -...

Can you please explain why you think it is a stupid comment please? I found it strange to give respect to a human simply because they "followed orders and did their job" - and i gave an example to show how silly those sort of comments are. Why is that an issue?

i've been banned on here about 6 times for not following the "bbc / system / war hero (only british) " line........in this thread I expressed my opinions at blind nationalism..... and invoked some obviously violent people.....the mods have made it clear where they sit.