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Fair enough. there's going to be wrong 'uns on both sides (in the leadership, for starters)

What has ANY of that got to do with the EU debate? Are you deliberately missing the point here? We let in 180,000 people from OUTSIDE the EU, through borders that WE control and the EU has nothing whatsoever to do with. Which bit is hard, here?

Well, I'm fairly sure you'll get consensus on that. Not sure what it has to do with eth EU debate though? Is Choudary pro-EU? Does it matter?

So basically just meaningless bombastic tub-thumping, with no substance, then?

I'm struggling to understand this point das. Can you clarify please, why the 180,000 we currently take in from outside the EU, would be affected by tomorrow's vote? What exactly is it, that we don't "have our say" on, that is stopping us reduce these numbers right now?

Botham is an absolute nause. Which is genuinely a real shame.

#FingersInEarsSmiley

Cleese does shout a lot, to be fair.

Well clearly, I've not suggested that at all. What I will say though, is that they do at least seem to be CALM. I'm all in favour of important decisions being made calmly.

I reject that generalisation, as there are people like Buzzer who I know ARE normal, decent people who genuinely think Leave is the right choice - for honest, reasonable factors. But yes, there do seem to be a significant percentage of shouty, frothy-mouthed, oddballs in that corner, too. It's...

So you don't actually know what it is you're voting against. Just happy to swallow lies and bombastic 'take our country back' nonsense. There we have it.

Seriously, why would he need one? Its hardly a stab in the dark to state that if there were a catastrophic failure of the EU-wide economy (the market for more than half of our exports and a large percentage of our services) that our own economy would implode. That is as close to a given as you...

Well, it will, actually - because we'd LOSE our veto on new countries (Turkey, for example) joining the EU.

Can you post a link to back that up please. That sounds pretty important - I'd really like to read it. Oh. And that one, too please. I've not heard of this rule. Really? You've polled a significant body of them have you? None of them want to go to the far more welcoming embrace of Germany...