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Exactly right. Shocking from Southgate - not only last night but all tournament. They qualified flawlessly with a settled system and settled team, set off to the finals off the back of a great win over Germany, and he threw it all away by ****ing about with the team as soon as they got there...

The paper I read this morning, with various quotes from Southgate and Hodgson, seemed to suggest that he is likely to call on Shaw, Chambers, Barkley and Sterling, but not on Wilshere or Oxlade-Chamberlain (as they are considered 'established senior players'). If so, Forster-Caskey's spot on the...

Because rather than 'couldn't be arsed' they were just in the senior squad?

They were 2-1 up when he came on!

It would be something like: Butland Stones Moore Chambers Shaw Stirling Oxlade-C Wilshere Redmond Berahino Barkley

A couple of the very young ones - Stirling and Barkley, probably - who have only played a few senior games, fair enough. They'll add quality and lift the squad. Not players like Wilshere and Oxlade Chamberlain who have been senior internationals for years.

I've been considering this too. Southgate has promised to be loyal to those who qualified though. Ward-Prowse is fair enough though - he played in the u21s this campaign. And you want them to do well too. It's a quandary.