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surely there was and are differing views the rich and well off thought that we were teflon and it would be over in weeks (they were not fighting the war) probably a bad analogy but here goes the England and Iceland game, one good blow and we thought we had won it, but alas the other team were...

what to have a whole generation of young men wiped out ...........not in their interest no

that was not the point I was trying to make, we still had to go over there and save them imagine if we had not done that

those selfish pensioners have had to put up with the shite from Europe since they tried to federalise it it ratherthan leave it as a trading group I suspect that others seen one of the European masters yesterday complaining that they will not wait until the tories have chosen another leader, but...

NO means NO and even if there was to be another vote it would still be no those snouts in the trough in Europe (our trough) will most certainly have alienated a lot of the remains and if the youth out there can be bothered to get off their arses and vote the remains might just scrape it...