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Fair enough. We probably have different criteria for what the OP considers to be 'captainy'.

Sorry but I was commenting on post 12. You now say he wasn't a shouter or an organiser but that's not the only way to lead. I'm not sure Bobby Moore led England by being shouty.

Actually, using the very narrow definition of legend that some are sticking to, Charlie Webb would be our only legend. Scored a winning goal for the only trophy and managed the club for decades.

I find it staggering that you don't think Beckham was a leader on the pitch. Whether you like him or not, he led the team by example and in many cases carried the team. He was a legend for England whether we won anything or not. He didn't hold the record for outfielder caps when he retired...