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Have you actually stood in a safe standing area?

Lol, I just see it as swapping one risk for another. I've been standing at away games for years in all seaters and the only issues have been when pissed up fans start jumping on seats and falling. They will still do that.

Rubbish. Regarding cages, we had our own experience in 1980 against Arsenal in the league cup and at the semi final the year before Hillsborough there was trouble at the same end. As for fires, I seem to recall we had a problem with our wooden south stand.

Yet miraculously there seems to be no record of all these accidents. Equally there could be a spate of head injuries as people celebrate a goal, fall over and hit their head on a waist high steel bar!!!

Agree, they don't. I would also add that the atmosphere at Spurs when we beat them was no better than the atmosphere when we beat Arsenal. One has safe standing the other doesn't.

They are, as are every club in the EPL when they allow away fans and home fans to stand. I can't recall one case of a club being prosecuted. So, the fact remains, how does sticking a bar in front of people that already stand improve their contribution to the atmosphere.

Tend to agree. Seems to be a few anecdotal stories of sore shins. Wonder when the first case of someone stumbling and smashing their head on a metal bar as they go down!!

Sorry but that's not right. I go to pretty much every away game and fans do not organize themselves on that basis. The main reason people don't use their own seat to stand in front of is that they want to stand with their mates. There may be some that are able to find unused seats nearer the...

But standing in an allocated space has always been what safe standing is. It's not a throwback to the 70s.

Not sure that would work. People buy tickets where they can. If only the front row is available they'll buy them there and probably still stand.