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Staggering they don’t have ‘clear and obvious’ protocols. What a mess.

Exactly this - and exactly what rugby does. Precise language has to be used to avoid any doubt about what is being reviewed and why.

Refs are travelling all over the place - including European games etc - even without the potential issues you raise, there’s no way they should basically be getting off a flight and doing another game the next day. Anyone doing that is likely to make a balls-up at work through tiredness (I know...

Agreed. All the audio will confirm is that the officials were useless and got it horribly wrong (maybe Liverpool think there's a genuine conspiracy or something :shrug: ). What we need is a very urgent review of how VAR is used to avoid crap like this happening so often. Webb should be fired if...

Correct. This is where rugby (for example) have nailed it - even the language the ref and TMO use is restricted so there is zero confusion about what is being reviewed, why it's being reviewed and what the decision is. Heard several people on TV and radio today basically saying there are no real...

Pretty much agree - although VAR and goal line tech are different things anyway - the system directly tells the onfield ref if the ball crosses the line. If VAR is looking at something (as you say things like violent conduct etc - would probably still include penalties but they need to have...

It’s just shifted crap decisions from the field to Stockley Park, with the latter having far less excuse and subject to more scrutiny. I genuinely don’t understand how they can get some things so obviously wrong.

This. It’s ruining the game. I’d rather have the spontaneity and the odd ‘in good faith’ bad decision from the man in the middle than the breathtaking incompetence and inconsistency we’re seeing over and over again from VAR officials.