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Arguably still 5 - handball in front of Veltman in their box.

That was changed for this season - it’s the armpit, not the bottom of the t-shirt. https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/presentation-of-all-changes-and-clarifications-to-the-laws-2022-23?l=en

….then PB saying much the same. Also reiterated that we shouldn’t be ‘attacking’ match officials whilst at the same time recognising they make mistakes and need to improve. Wasn’t prepared to discuss the details of the apology but did say Webb had been very forthcoming and open (or similar)...