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Well clearly he is innocent then.

Rapier like.

I said do you disbelieve all police evidence.

Im fine thanks. I coped well. Have you got that bit about me discounting police evidence regarding ANTIFA yet?... or we do we just accept that you dribble the first thing that comes into your head?

...and the only liar in this conversation is you. Carry on lying.

Yes,., I added to it. Are you saying this is a special case? A conspiracy? These are the only fans 'targetted'? Dont forget to show me where I have discounted police evidence of any sort regarding ANTIFA.

So this is a special case? A conspiracy even? Go on.. Dont forget to show me where ive discounted any police evidence to a group I have no links with

Any evidence. I dont believe I have, and I believe you are making up stories. Do you disbelieve all police evidence?

Not video evidence I havnt. In fact, I dont remember discounting police evidence for ANTIFA with or without video evidence. Even though Im not a member, or ever have been, of ANTIFA. Maybe you can show me. As I have stated, I am no fan of some of the police but generally take their word for it...

They take the word..for sure, but in this case, there is a video. We will never see it, but its hard to move away from. Didnt somebody post something about this earlier in the thread, regardiing the Coventry fan? There are avenues I think.

So, maybe they can take that up with the authorities?

If there was some proof of their innocence, I would budge my stance. At the moment, the evidence is a police video, that doesnt look good, and anti social behaviour by throwing beer at a police officer believing him to be a jouralist. But, fair enough.

Well, thats the sort of anti social behaviour that the police said they would target. I dont believe everything the police say. I know there a wrong uns.. but I dont believe all are. I will trust the police, especially when they have video evidence, over friends opinions of the blokes. Get some...

Im not the person to be speaking to. You need to explain all this to the football intelligence unit, and the magistrate who applied the ban. Is it true they threw beer at a police officer believing him to be a journalist? 'These FBO's have been given based purely on hearsay and circumstantial...

Trust me. I have no love of some police. I discovered in the 80's that I was a 'known person' despite never being convicted of anything. Seemed to eminate from the **** Beard. Generally though, they do a difficult job. Ive seen things fabricated. It happens. If you would like to disband the...

I wouldnt wear a cardigan. Im not wringing my hands. The people 'wringing' their hands are the people who, despite the police filming them....confronting...not defending...and then confronting the police for filming them are the ones wringing their hands. My only opinion other than that, is that...

My opinion doesnt matter. Neither does yours. The police film of the incident seems to. If you are able to prove some extenuating circumstances that will make the video incorrect, you need to contact somebody.

The Brighton fans.

The ones with the numerous football violence links on their social media? The Russians were clearly the aggressors for most of the day. Thats clear, and no argument, but to argue that nobody else was guilty is a bit daft. Im sure these blokes are probably decent, although, a couple are known to...

Think its a bit more naive to actually believe there were no troublemakers among the English fans. Im going on the fact, and I repeat, that they were filmed by British police confronting Russian fans, not defending themselves, and following this by confronting the police for filming them. The...