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Agreed, but we haven't seen all angles. I was just responding to the "referees union" responses on here. The disallowed goals I can somewhat live with, albeit without getting into a "non proven" debate. The penalty shouts ? Blimey. What the f@@@ is VAR there for ? I think we can agree that...

If you re-read my post (you probably require a VAR) I said that goals were both open to debate. My issue is with the penalties and VAR. If it can't see the referee made a mistake, that it's everything do with the politics of a referee not wanting to be seen to overrule the judgement of another...

Unfortunately VAR is clearly (and obviously) currently being run to protect the reputation of the officials rather than simply being a technology that corrects their mistakes or spot things they have missed. The "clear and obvious" get out is nonsense in terms of penalties and goals. Something...

I'm afraid it's outside of my remit.

606 on now. Leading with VAR and the game. Sutton very angry. If it makes you feel better...