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  1. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    :lolol: the made up bollocks is so obviously made up, how does anyone get taken in?
  2. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    unless there are similar stories in rugby, cricket, atheltics, american football, cycling, judo, weightlighting, etc, etc, what you have there is evidence of football being dangerous.
  3. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    long flu ???
  4. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    it is accurate. there are vaccines made by SI, named Covshield, that has not had marketing approval in the EU. there are some vaccine made by SI for Astrazeneca, who does have marketing approval. seems some authorities misunderstood the regulations to interpret those made by SI arent approved...
  5. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    its a disappointing move. they seem to have used a technicality that its a different "brand" so should be approved separately. last month they sought a court order to insist all AstraZeneca production, by various subcontractors, worldwide should be used to full-fill their contracts. now they...
  6. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    it doesnt, its just a thin veil to cover the selfishness of not taking the vaccine. herd immunity needs for most the population to be immunised, we all do our bit. everyone has sacrificed this past year, some people want to be special and not need to take the vaccine.
  7. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    you've ignored that catching the virus is not zero risk. it it were, and if natural immunity really were more effective, we'd not be too fussed about keeping everyone distanced until vaccinated. you've also ignored the virus reduces serious conditions to next to zero. you're gambling you might...
  8. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    original plan had younger age groups going without the jab until end of summer, and targets to open were based on that. we are still ahead of plan so there is no sensible reason to slow ease of restrictions.
  9. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    on basis its consequence of immune responce (if where any link), you'd best off with the AZ as you know how you reacted to that jab.
  10. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    the risk in any age group is same in the general population. you have more risk of a fatal accident on the way to take the jab. because of the numbers being vaccinated, a few clot incidents have come through within the window after having the jab. the caution from regulator is because this...
  11. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    sensible plan. despite the rhetoric on supply they have done so much damage to the AZ vaccine, and vaccination in general. may as well give up and wait for Moderna and Jansen to ramp production.
  12. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    its a great shame really. person of prominence, professor at a respectable university, makes assertion on social media without any supporting evidence. a responder shows evidence to counter their claim and is blocked. vaccine is less effective, it is not ineffective.
  13. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    the sort of thing i dont think should be allowed to broadcast. he speculating, openly, about things he cant really know for sure and says a such. so why put that in peoples living rooms? however put in perspective, his pessimistic forecast would be about in line with a few bad flu years for...
  14. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    and despite them not using what they have, because they wont administer it to the over 55's. i reckon its the old story being dragged up. would be interesting if an agreement with EU for best endevours stands up in court for an individual country.
  15. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    near same data is seen for Pfizer, different response. 40 cases of blood clots isnt just inconsequential, its lower than you'd expect in the population, especially given the demographic. you could use the data to argue it lower blood clot incidence (it doesnt of course). the precautionary...
  16. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    so you're using News Corp as your source, rather than actual published medical research and source data. gotcha. :ffsparr:
  17. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    data linked says otherwise. the numbers are so small compared to number of vaccines, they are not attributable to the vaccines. there will be 10x more deaths on the road this year than death following either AZ or Pfizer vaccine.
  18. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    you're ignoring all the health experts and institutions that say its safe, in favour of handful that say otherwise. you could look up some of the data yourself, such as adverse reactions, compare to number of doses administered...
  19. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    no there isn't. efficacy from trials was 74% and in field is reporting as 82%. you're just perpetuating the European smear campaign.
  20. beorhthelm

    The Vaccine Thread

    medical class record everything, most of which is published, it is the most regulated and closely monitored industry. there are public records for the number of illness people have after vaccination, and there are many because when you vaccinate millions probability tells us there will be. but...
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