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  1. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    I dont have a particular line in the sand necessarily, i want the debate to rise above simplistic all in/all out as if they are the only possible options.
  2. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    I'm referring to when there was a single market, the EEC, before it grew into the EU. the options need to be discussed, i dont think assuming it has to follow the EFTA is necessarily the answer, there's possibility of restructuring how the EU and membership works. i don't want to say two tier...
  3. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    yeah, with a gun to their head and a knife against their neck. leave the Euro, leave the EU; leave the EU the markets and economic consequences will be even worse. the only reason they sold bailout package was by deflecting blame on nasty Germany. im amazed you've interpretted events as...
  4. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    see, right there, you've presented the EU as the same thing as the free trade EEC. pro-EU gets more publicity than i think is credited, admittedly not as much as the anti-EU, and usually in more subtle or high brow areanas. when politicans are talking about returning powers, renegotiation they...
  5. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    to be fair, that comes from the pro-EU side too, who default to claims that all industry and commerce will cease and we'll become an impoverished little back water if we dare step outside the club. most that are against the EU are against the institutional bureaucracy it has become, and quite...
  6. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    moving to India is different because there's different legal concerns. you cant move a role that requires access to certain sensitive information to India or other countries. but by law allows movement within the EU... so it does, from UK, Germany, France to elsewhere in the EU where the...
  7. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    no. the UK already has it perfectly own good data laws, which state whats sensitive and whats not, who repsonsible and what sanctions there are for transgresion. companies are (mostly) shit scared of this law and try their best comply. there not a lot of overhead to doing so, a few...
  8. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    yet you gave an example of someone who raises their game. its odd to assume that companies will always race to the bottom when so many dont. usually quality and ethics create better more productive and profitable business. the problem with bureacracy is that it imposes costs to ensure...
  9. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    well thats your client's rule... not a legal requirement. others will do the minimum required. however, under DPA the company remains the custodian of the data and therefore responsible. they are likly to impose UK like levels of oversight and administrative control in the Indian office, and...
  10. beorhthelm

    Yet another piece of UKIP brilliance

    at an EU level the cost of labour is more complex than minimum wages, especially as they can differ. its not just low skilled coming here to take the low end manual roles, there's the skilled roles that are moving out of the UK to where skills are cheaper. companies outsource office work to...
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