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Oh dear, I feel a little bit silly after seeing that :lolol:

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To be fair to Kalimantan Gull he is a bit more than a tree hugger das , he is a scientist and he is pretty clued up on this , not sure whether his views on the EU are quite so clued up though !

You sound a real charmer, I bet you consider yourself a 'caring' individual though.

I used to work in The Carbon Emissions market, and believe me , Europes cap and trade regulations are a total and utter waste of fvcking time with what 3rd world countries such as China and India are pumping out .

Which are all a total waste of time unless the rest of the world implements them as well.

You're missing the point , I could see WORKERS being kicked out , but not retirees, they cost nothing and ultimately spend money in whatever economy they reside in.

I disagree, do you really think they would kick out pensioners who are contributing to their economies , not taking up jobs that locals could do or social housing that locals could use ?

long time no see !!

The thought terrifies me.

Undecided because of the economic case , neither side has presented a clear, concise, detailed argument as to the benefits of staying or going , it's been bluster and scaremongering from both sides , the immigration argument isn't really at the forefront of my thinking believe it or not ...

I agree with you to a certain extent about the debate being about emotion, certainly on the scots side , but my gut tells me that they would vote to stay again , the SNP economic case is basically shot with the oil price where it is , as for th EU in out debate , again to a certain extent I'll...

I don't think the scots would vote to leave , there are rumblings of discontent that they were misled over the SNP fiscal plans and coupled with the oil price through the floor I think that they would vote to stay within the UK and by a much wider margin this time, I'd also be interested how...

Why ?? It wasn't a hard border when it was just us who were in the EU.

I'm one of them.

your personal circumstances ALLOW you to be unselfish, were you earning minimum wage and competing for social housing and employment with EU immigrants and your children in a class where 60 % of them speak english as a second language I doubt your voting and attitude would be quite so magnanimous.

For me to vote Tory again we would have to go back to the classic born to rule type , at least they were 'one nation' types and im talking about the likes of macmillan and douglas-home here , i couldnt vote for tory or labour at the moment one lot wants to rape the country and sell it off, the...

We are a Grumpy box today arent we :lolol:

Not as senior as the Chairman, I bet ? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/11986047/UBS-chairman-Brexit-will-not-undermine-the-City-of-London.html

UBS chairman: Brexit will not undermine the City of London Britain’s financial centre will still have access to Europe if the UK leaves the EU, according to Axel Weber...