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That’s really terrible news Commiserations to all the families involved 😢

No, not an essential requirement for most police forces Again showing in this matter that you are not well informed - not just to the facts of the particular incidence but generally on the life threatening risks of being submerged in frozen water: - it is almost impossible to get yourself out...

It does and they did. All the protocols they should follow I posted above, including risk assessment. Of course there will be an investigation and thorough evaluation of rescue efforts - there always are. I don’t think you being ’callous’ btw - far from it - clearly you are deeply moved and...

Why are you so aggressive and sarcastic about this? It doesn’t say ‘they weren’t required‘ to enter the water, it says they should not attempt a rescue that ‘they are untrained or unequipped to do’. Children have tragically died and a policeman ended up with hyperthermia trying to save them...

To protect the public, prevent crime (ie keep law and order) including protecting people at risk of being victims of crime, arrest perpetrators and investigate crime. FROM SUSSEX POLICE guidelines on water rescue 3.1 Surrey Police and Sussex Police understand that police officers and staff...

Initial responders On arrival at the scene, initial responders should: consider their own personal safety not get involved in rescue activities undertake an assessment using the METHANE mnemonic as a guide declare a major incident, if appropriate establish rendezvous point(s) for incoming...

As stated above 👍 (not the ‘idiot’ part but there are plenty of caps to go round. 🙂)

No, my bad - omg really sorry, I must have misread something earlier and it got stuck in my head - one of them did enter the water though and ended up being taken to hospital with hypothermia ( subsequent released)

Not my words but if you want to wear that hat, ‘so be it’

“…who attended had an absolute duty to do all they could to try and rescue the children and if it entailed risking their own lives to do it then so be it” They don’t have ‘an absolute duty to rescue‘ anyone if it is deemed too risky which is the point - clearly kids falling through ice on a...

I think you are a bit of a mission creep here - no one has said that the Police don’t have any duty to assist members of the public in danger. But you started out saying that ‘they have a duty to risk their lives’. They don’t- they have a duty to protect life including their own. Do you...

You seem to think ‘risk’ is an either or - it’s not! Risk has to be quantified then assessed according to the level of the participant- if you read my post on the previous page, I stated what the Police’s ( or any public service officer/caregiver ) is. I worked in many professional environments...

please see my post above As I said, no one, not even a Policeman, is obliged to commit suicide. The fact that one tragically lost his life doing what clearly was a life threatening rescue, should be hailed as a hero not be regarded or even downplayed as someone who we can say of ‘well he...

Just to be clear the Met’s view on whether or not Policeman carry out rescue was stated after the Jack Susisanta case (the kid that drowned after being pursued by police) and it is not as black and white as some people are suggesting it is: ’According to the Health and Safety Executive, there...