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  1. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Ryan Selby of St Leonards drove through 40mph streets in Hastings at up to 110mph. Killing a family man. https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-11-01/dangerous-driver-jailed-for-killing-father-of-three-in-high-speed-crash Smirking in his mugshot with the inevitable bum fluff under his conk...
  2. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Another one, Grimmett should be out in 14 months after good behaviour. His dangerous and drunk driving left an innocent 17 year old with a bleed on the brain and spinal damage. The coward compounded his criminal behaviour by leaving his victim, driving off. 14 months for the criminal, life...
  3. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    I got sick of driving long distances in the UK, beacuse of the endless jams and roadworks. Plus you're just one idiot's accident away from being trapped in one spot on a m-way for hours. It happens, alot. Our last drive to Liverpool for the Albion was beset with a huge compulsory detour from...
  4. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    I'm a pragmatist on the environmental issues, I see compromising and a gradual approach as the answer, getting the vast majority onside. Carbons are being phased out. To me, totally separate to that, is safety (a cyclist could be mown by someone driving a Tesla). To me, zero tolerance of...
  5. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    I just don't get the opposing view to yours/my own. I'm a car driver and no saint. If in my 1.5t missile I hurt a pedestrian, cyclist or someone in smaller car, through fiddling on my phone, speeding or drink/drug driving, that would be 100% my responsibily. Akin to chucking an object out of...
  6. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Justice and the court system is also very much about punishment. Real sentences have been steadily increasing for a wide range of driving (and sexual offences) over many years now, reflecting the views of society and politicians. It hasn't stopped people slaying bike riders or pedestrians...
  7. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Disgusting - brainless driving, failing to stop, on drugs. A child’s life and hopes in ruins. The price of all that? 14 months inside, then a full life lived. It’s not about throwing away the key for vengeance. Instead, jail terms (actual time served) must be commensurate to the damage done...
  8. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    I still cycle on roads, but I’m always aware that I’d be completely helpless to a moron in a lorry, van or car fiddling with their beloved phone.
  9. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Two comments. 1. If anyone doesn’t believe in cycle helmets, there’s the proof that they’re invaluable. That would’ve been a kids skull. 2. Keith Vernon is a disgusting piece of shit. Judge Barnes saw through his lies.
  10. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Looks like double the m-way speed limit. Incredible that anyone walked from that wreckage. The cnt used public roads as his playground.
  11. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    This habitual drink driver wiped out a family. Some solace I hope in the almost 11 year sentence and 16 year driving ban. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-56808036 Once released, I hope police keep an eye on the menace. Awful for the wife and mum.
  12. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    I think I’ve posted this before, but mobile phones are THE game changer imho. Me wearing a bile helmet, being very aware of drivers bad habits and not cycling at break speeds .... gives me a sense of nothing really bad can happen to me. Touch wood, it hasn’t. But mobile phones being used...
  13. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    I’ve been in the car of a driver fuming about it, in my family!! Hates cyclists in tandem especially. Chris Boardman has carefully explained that two abreast makes cyclists more visible, it saves lives. Do you ever cycle? I think it helps the mindset. I’m a car driver, I have to be eg a...
  14. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    The BBC’s Dutch correspondent Anna Holligan a couple of months back presented a mini doc on the news channel about bike culture in The Netherlands. She explained that in 1945/1950, bike riders faced the same risks as in say the UK and Italy now, high death rates, motorised road users had zero...
  15. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Wearing seat belts and drink driving, were the dogged mobile phone issues of decades past. When I first drove in the 80’s three times as many people died on the UK roads. Half the people I knew of my Dad’s generation and mine routinely drunk drove, often smashed. The penalty if caught was a...
  16. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Agree with all that, but I wouldn’t make it party political or the right is the enemy. I know loads of apolitical folk (yes, away from NSC, many people live daily lives for other reasons), who are staunch petrol heads, boy they hate the rise of cycling in this country. Some female btw...
  17. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Paige Blake was driving whilst talking on WhatsApp and killed a guy. With good behaviour, out in 15 months. https://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/pregnant-woman-jailed-for-killing-cyclist-in-hatfield-7903982 A woman who was talking to her sister on WhatsApp when she hit and killed a cyclist has been...
  18. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    I know some people find Stat Brother annoyinng on anything to do with transport, but he has my total respect on the subject. What's his NSC crime? Wanting to see safer roads as there are in several continental nations, particularly in some cities. He's a car driver and not anti cars full...
  19. Weststander

    [News] Just 3 years for killing a boy through dangerous driving

    Thread hijacked by an attempt to slag off cyclists. This thread and the one about the two week old killed, are in essence about arrogant drivers butchering innocents. I’m a car driver and have no problem with cyclists. Yes, those crossing red lights are tossers and should be fined, but they do...
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