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  1. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Indeed. Now could we get NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine please ?
  2. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    All of which happened. There were numerous NATO exercises in eastern NATO countries and troops guarding the boarders were increased by 30,000 rapid response, combat ready troops. Heavy armoury was also moved to the boarders.
  3. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Aparently the 'voter' doesn't even get to mark the ballot - the solider asks how they wish to vote and then marks the ballot himself !
  4. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Regardless of the nuclear plant, who do you think is there training and guiding Ukraine forces ? There is no way they've made those advances without help. I'm not taking anything away from the bravery of the Ukraine forces but Russia has well over double the military might than Ukraine so they...
  5. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Or based reports from yesterday, moved on for holding up a blank sheet of paper.
  6. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    As is always the case in war. For example, during WWII Britain carried out some pretty horrendous acts that nowadays would be classed as war crimes.
  7. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    You left off the fact that Russia has lost so much equipment and used so much munitions that they've had to import from North Korea :facepalm:
  8. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    I gave up the moment he suggested that the USA 'encouraged' the invasion !
  9. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    But there should be comparisons - sanctions were a non-entity in 1938. And let's point out that the current sanctions haven't prevented a single death yet. History works in circles - humans never really learn. Yes the weapons are different now - sanctions and god forbid nuclear weapons - but the...
  10. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    An interesting analogy - and similar to one I thought of earlier but decided not to post. Let's say when you were at school and bully decided to pick on one of your mates and take his pocket money - a common thing in the 70's and 80's. Would you stand up for your mate or would you allow the...
  11. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    I agree but disagree. NATO is a defensive alliance and should not get involved. The West itself - probably the US, UK and France - should. At the moment we're letting a bully get away with genocide and the destruction of a democratic country all for his own warped desires. I've said it already...
  12. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Have you approached your local Lions Club ? While normally they support local causes they do often help international causes. A good example is Brighton Lions arranged and paid for an aid convoy shortly after the Bosnia war. My father was president of the club at the time and went with the...
  13. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Without wishing to distract from the seriousness of the thread, this reminds me of a story recounted to me by my now ex-wife many years ago - she is a primary school teacher to put some context around it. She was sorting out getting the Naivety Play planned for the school. She had gathered her...
  14. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Putting aside the crassness of the reporting style, it's disturbing, when put along side India's abstention last night at the UN, the fact they put the word enemy in inverted commas.
  15. Westdene Seagull

    [Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

    Ukraine want to play the match at the end of Jan but Putin says some of his players have Covid so has insisted on a delay.
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