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out of interest, why would we have to negotiate with each EU nation ? Why wouldn't we just negotiate with the EU that represents those remaining members just as the US is currently doing ?

Which says rather a lot about the Labour and Tory parties ! What it doesn't mean is that we should tie ourselves to an undemocratic, bureaucratic and corrupt 'club'.

[ You seriously believe that the rest of the EU would sulk, stamp their feet and scream like a child because a member has the tenacity to leave ? If the EU can't be grown up about a country democratically electing to leave then they deserve no members. But of course the EU don't like democracy...

You mean the directive the UK has an deal on allowing people to opt out ? The directive that a majority of contracts now automatically opt you out of which leaves a worker having to opt back in if they want ? Yep, that one worked well.

Yes I do as they currently trade with Iceland, Norway and Switzerland. There is no evidence to suggest EU members would stop trading with us. And therein lies the point, neither side of the argument can provide solid evidence what would happen after a withdrawal because : a. There has never...

A. With exactly the markets we currently trade with. Around 50% of our trade is to non-EU countries. Our trade with EU members would continue, the Germans are hardly going to prevent us buying their BMWs and they will want our car designers to continue designing them their high quality cars. B...

You can use long unusual words all you like - it doesn't enhance your argument, it just makes you look like a c**t.

Not really but I'm sure you'll do so regardless and bore us silly telling us that Germany does it bigger, better, more efficiently and cheaper what ever it is we're talking about :p Neither do they pay massive membership fees.

..... at the moment !

If that's the case I apologise - BF's post came across as critical of potential UKIP voters but I may have got the wrong end of the stick.

Because of course you know what the electorate want ?